It won't matter much when gold is "vaulable again" to those who die when it would not buy food (because there was no food to buy).

To say that gold or any other metal absolutely will have value in a post collapse world is also nonsense. Gold will have value if there is an economic collapse that leaves society more or less intact dominated by small local economies. Gold will be absolutely worthless of society falls totally. Sure, it may gain value once a new society emerges again, but in the interim at least there will be little to no value when compared to guns, ammunition, shelf stable food, clean water, spices, etc.

Gold is an excellent hedge against inflation and a proven worthwhile investment within our current society. It is a poor investment when it comes to surviving the collapse of our society. Diversification of one’s investments would ideally include both precious metals and survival oriented goods, services, foods, and training.

Don't get me wrong. Food will always have trade value. However, it might not always be enough.
What if you need an axe. I make ax's. If you offered me 20 bushels of Tomatos for the ax, it would do me no good if I cannot eat or trade them before they rot. G/S require no refrigeration. Bullets might have value, but they are a consumable also. G/S is a way of converting your excesses for future barter.
If you don't have G/S, there's always Prostitution for exchange - right?
I'm pretty sure when the SHTF, Prostitution will be a minimum wage occupation.

How will anyone without gold before the collapse of the dollar be able to get it afterwards?

Shrug in Argentina with me ...


(well, perhaps one of them...)

No problema!

When the lights really go out, hundeds of millions will die.

And gold won't be the most valuable metal.

I'm glad you are willing to share with us part of your plan shrug

Have you ever seen the movie "Mad Max?"

When the lights go out nobody will be paying anybody anything.

True. Sorry that came off as snarky, I'm in a bad mood from unrelated issues. I wish you luck. Your plan is definitely concrete, while mine do rely on an assumption.

....in the stone age that may be just around the corner.

At least I'm giving myself and those I love a shot at survival.

Welcome to 2016

In the event of such a collapse, the city dwellers will eat each other. Besides, FEMA will be there first to take them off to the FEMA camps.
You are likely correct, in the city, only marauders will succeed. Until the run out of other peoples money (aka food). Good thing the entire US population doesn't live in cities.
City dwellers are dependent on gov't resources, either by welfare, or infrastructure to survive.

The question becomes, if gold/silver has no value, what does??? If nothing does, then it doesn't matter, curl up into a ball and die. There is nothing a city dweller, especially, can stock pile that would save them from such an event. Even bullets, won't save you for long. You can't eat bullets either. You can't take you 100 pounds of stored food and leave the city. you'd have a better chance take a pound of gold/silver with you and fleeing to a more civilized area, where your g/s might buy something.

So, if someone lives in the city, what should they do to preserve their wealth, and safety?

That depends on how much gas is available and how easy it is to get per individual.

I thought we were talking about after dollars exist? Sure not everyone will have gold to start out with, but they'll still like to have it.

No price is ever permanent, all that matters is how valuable it is to who you're trading with.

The lights go out..... and then someone buys the power plant and starts paying people in gold.

You ae welcome.

And if you ever live near me, please be advised that I do accept fruit and nuts in exchange for eggs.

But not a dime.

Well. Have fun living in the stone age.

When gold is ten thousand dollars per ounce how much do think gas will cost?

Who will have the dollars to buy it?

And why should the price of gold "stabalize" at ten thousand dollars per ounce?

That might be the price someday..at 9 AM.

By noon it could be $15,000 per ounce.

And by sunset the lights might be going out...

For a long time.

And the GDF'ing EPA can't stop me!

Nope.

You can keep your dimes.

If I have eggs I want bacon in exchange!

Fortuantely, my neighbos have hogs.

And I'm building a smokehouse.

Thanks for clarification.

No one is going to be able to make gas because the dollar doesn't exist?

What kind of post dollar zone are you envisioning? Like, the us dollar isn't worth anything so everyone runs out to the streets and starts killing each other?

Anything = gold, silver, paper.