Posted by $jlc 9 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
Since I disagree with your facts on global warming (and I have posted on this many times before; do not intend to segue into that again at the moment) we are reasoning from a different set of premises. Insofar as whether ISIS constitutes more than random thugs who will soon dissipate, we will see.
I have, however, pointed you back up to 1 from 0. We disagree, but we are doing so based on disparate data sets not flaming poo flinging.
Posted by ewv 9 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
Of course it's bizarre. Boinie is bizarre. He's dithering on the cause. The 'blame it on the weather line' is currently a common leftist theme avoiding acknowledgment of the cause. They typically believe their own propaganda.
Posted by ewv 9 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
isis is not a disease, it is deliberate irrationality deliberately pursued on as wide and growing a scope as it can get away with. They are not "pretending" to be nazis. They are a threat because of what they are and what they are doing, not because sane people are imagining it. If the civilized world would recognize isis for what it is and treat it accordingly it would no longer be a threat. Pretending it isn't won't make it go away.
Posted by ewv 9 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
db knows that the ongoing problem is much broader and deeper than the current fanatical behavior of isis. If it weren't, isis wouldn't be the problem that it is.
There have always been lowlife murders. They always have a bogus story about why they do it.
The "were global warming true" thing makes no sense because we are in an deglaciating period of this ice age, and the evidence strongly points to human activities increasing the natural deglaciation. This will be a huge net cost to people. If you can't face the basic reality of it, there's no where to go from there. Assuming we do face reality, i's a much bigger deal than a band of criminals. There's no obvious answer to how to manage it and have a world supporting billions of people living an affluent life. I'm sure there's away; we just haven't solved it yet. It's a much much bigger problem than extremist thugs. I predict the state component to it will disappear, and they will exist only as criminals in rural regions of weak gov'ts. I could be wrong about this, though, because I never predicted they could actually take over parts of countries without even hiding how evil they are.
My mind conjured up a vision of petro-dollars flowing into the Middle East and a "a stream of morons with terrorists interspersed in it" flowing out! TRUE TRUE TRUE!!
strugatsky, you hit that nail squarely on the head!
Posted by $jlc 9 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
I do not agree with you in either respect: Climate change is a chimera of political agendas. Were global warming even true, it would be minor and beneficial.
ISIS is directly attacking us. It is not some slow evolution of the patterns of the Earth - these are people.trying.to.kill.me.
Posted by $jlc 9 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
db is correct. Lysenkoism and the Blank Slate are recent politically charged 'scientific' theories that have had destructive consequences. If there is a single fight to fight, it is against illogic.
"ISIS can't do much until it is your family member that is killed." You could substitute any peril (cars, rare disease, earthquakes), and if you're following emotionalism, then they're all the greatest threat to humankind.
"Boiny thinks terrorists and climate hysteria are related because one of the current PC rationalization fads claims that the weather is driving otherwise innocent people to become frustrated terrorists." I wonder if the senator really believes that. It sounded like an awkward way of saying he takes mass murder seriously without appearing to dither. OTOH, maybe he believes it. It seems like a bizarre claim to me.
"Those affected by the savagery don't agree..." Sure, when you're affected by something, maybe a rare disease, it's extremely important to you. It doesn't mean it's a threat to the world. ISIS and their allies (in this case, you) want to convince the world that they are something serious like a Nazi state "at war with the civilized world". They and their allies are only a threat to the extent they can convince the world they're at war.
I think that if an electromagnetic event happens that takes down the power grid we're all screwed. No water (pumps needed), no fuel (pumps needed), etc. I suppose if you live on a farm with a hand-cranked well, you'd be good for a while (got lots of ammo?).
And speaking of Madonna after her speech about reaching out to ISIS to show them that we mean them no harm ( a view unfortunately shared by Obama ), she actually thinks that they will be so touched that they will love us. What a twit. If ISIS ever gets the upper hand, I'd love to see her being forced to wear a burqa, act modestly, and be obsequious to males.
Correct you can't fix stupid when stupid tries to think with 1/2 a brain only...and I assure you, that is the problem with Humanoids like this. Sure, it's gona get colder and our wandering poles, solar minimum; ever decreasing magnetic shielding and shrinking ozone layer will make us more and more vulnerable to relatively weak electromagnetic events. BUT: I prefer to be without internet, phone and electrical power to that of being blown up or beheaded whether it be isis or some other group that liberal progressive government has pissed off! What say you?
Posted by ewv 9 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
CircuitGuy: "I don't understand his saying they're directly related."
Boiny thinks terrorists and climate hysteria are related because one of the current PC rationalization fads claims that the weather is driving otherwise innocent people to become frustrated terrorists.
Posted by ewv 9 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
That's all? Have Boinie and Cackles openly joined ISIS, along with Pragmatists, Alinskyites, theocrats, viros and the rest of the manifestions of said irrationalism? ISIS is the only current threat because it's only the latest range of the moment news item?
I have, however, pointed you back up to 1 from 0. We disagree, but we are doing so based on disparate data sets not flaming poo flinging.
Jan
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The "were global warming true" thing makes no sense because we are in an deglaciating period of this ice age, and the evidence strongly points to human activities increasing the natural deglaciation. This will be a huge net cost to people. If you can't face the basic reality of it, there's no where to go from there. Assuming we do face reality, i's a much bigger deal than a band of criminals. There's no obvious answer to how to manage it and have a world supporting billions of people living an affluent life. I'm sure there's away; we just haven't solved it yet. It's a much much bigger problem than extremist thugs. I predict the state component to it will disappear, and they will exist only as criminals in rural regions of weak gov'ts. I could be wrong about this, though, because I never predicted they could actually take over parts of countries without even hiding how evil they are.
My mind conjured up a vision of petro-dollars flowing into the Middle East and a "a stream of morons with terrorists interspersed in it" flowing out! TRUE TRUE TRUE!!
strugatsky, you hit that nail squarely on the head!
Hell, I can't stop laughing! +100 if I could!
Jan
ISIS is directly attacking us. It is not some slow evolution of the patterns of the Earth - these are people.trying.to.kill.me.
We agree that they are lowlifes.
Jan
Jan
You could substitute any peril (cars, rare disease, earthquakes), and if you're following emotionalism, then they're all the greatest threat to humankind.
I wonder if the senator really believes that. It sounded like an awkward way of saying he takes mass murder seriously without appearing to dither. OTOH, maybe he believes it. It seems like a bizarre claim to me.
Sure, when you're affected by something, maybe a rare disease, it's extremely important to you. It doesn't mean it's a threat to the world. ISIS and their allies (in this case, you) want to convince the world that they are something serious like a Nazi state "at war with the civilized world". They and their allies are only a threat to the extent they can convince the world they're at war.
Sure, it's gona get colder and our wandering poles, solar minimum; ever decreasing magnetic shielding and shrinking ozone layer will make us more and more vulnerable to relatively weak electromagnetic events.
BUT:
I prefer to be without internet, phone and electrical power to that of being blown up or beheaded whether it be isis or some other group that liberal progressive government has pissed off!
What say you?
Boiny thinks terrorists and climate hysteria are related because one of the current PC rationalization fads claims that the weather is driving otherwise innocent people to become frustrated terrorists.
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