Life In The Electronic Concentration Camp: The Surveillance State Is Alive & Well

Posted by UncommonSense 9 years, 4 months ago to Government
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I feel so safe it's unbelievable. The Stasi would be so proud.

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  • Posted by edweaver 9 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    That would be a step in the right direction for sure but I think we need to get back to 50 independent states united as a country instead of a country of 50 clones.
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  • Posted by $ jdg 9 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I'd settle for just repealing the 16th Amendment. The feds weren't exactly helpless before 1913.
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  • Posted by edweaver 9 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    You have a point but I think the founders of this country had the same uphill battle. In fact, from my studies I believe the majority of people at the time did not think the British could be defeated either. They had a standing army that was so much better prepared than the people signing the Declaration of Independence. But they won. People can do anything if the cause is right.
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  • Posted by edweaver 9 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Pipe dream but a good one just the same.

    I've been thinking lately that maybe all money going to the federal government should be paid by each state. How states gets money is up to each state. It would also put the states & people back in the drivers seat, the way it was intended. 50 states would have more power to withhold payments if the federal government was not upholding the Constitution. I know, another pipe dream.
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  • Posted by $ jdg 9 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The Patriot Act had nothing to do with terrorism. It was a DEA "wish list" dating back to the Nixon administration, and that's what it's been used for.

    The best reason to simplify the tax system is to put an end to the excuse for government to snoop in people's personal financial affairs. Then the drug war will collapse all the faster, and we can become a free country again.
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  • Posted by term2 9 years, 4 months ago
    Our government, under the guise of protecting us from terrorism, has protected ITSELF so well that a revolution here is pretty much impossible to carry out, no matter how bad our government became in its treatment of citizens.
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  • Posted by LibertyBelle 9 years, 4 months ago
    We can demand that the Fourth Amendment be
    enforced. Also, if they send some equipment or
    something out of the country to do unConstitutional
    things, those acts remain unConstitutional as long
    as they are done by the the government. I know
    that many in the government are hostile to the
    Constitution, and that it will be a hard fight.
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  • Posted by johnpe1 9 years, 4 months ago
    this is ominous, but it should have been expected. -- j
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 4 months ago
    Surveillance of anything transmitted without wires has been legal from the get go. Though some court rulings modified that for any thing originating and terminating in country.

    Wire transmissions required a warrant for some decades.

    However the courts held that anything originating in or terminating in be it wired or wireless did not require a warrant.

    Question how much of the traffic in the US does not use wireless?

    All radiotelephone or cell traffic uses wireless.

    All traffic using satellites even if it's from topeka to poughkeepsie

    Only those that are telephones not radio phones AND use hard wire or fiber optics and all in country start to finish....

    Not very many

    Fiver Optics typically inside bundles of seven or eight tubes the center tube invariably is reserved for the government.

    Somewhere in one of the town hall or other blogs I read the courts were shutting down the big NSA operation and going back in the direction of signed warrants using probable cause and not mere suspicion of ....

    Maybe the judges figured out they too could be secretly tapped and apprehended under the Patriot Act..
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 9 years, 4 months ago
    Click on "banana republic" in blue at the bottom of the eighth paragraph.
    I did so kinda with a yawn, expecting to see nothing more than a definition I could come up with in my own words anyhow.
    Instead, I read an interesting article called "10 Ways America Has Come To Resemble A Banana Republic."
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  • Posted by edweaver 9 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Nothing surprises me anymore. It is scary that they want to legalize propaganda but the more I learn about our school systems and think back to my years in school, (35 years ago) the more I realize they have been using propaganda all along. They don't need the law.

    The progressive movement has made a mess of our country. What is even more scary is there are people that participate on this site that will vote to elect more progressives. I just don't get it. :(
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  • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 9 years, 4 months ago
    Does one really expect anything differently from the Kakistocracy?
    It's not survival of the fittest, it's the weakest among us, the great unwashed, the rule(lessers) that are in fear of extinction. We've been through this battle before; in fact, it has never ended.

    Question is: How to we End It for good?
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  • Posted by UncommonSense 9 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Regarding your first sentence: oh I know, I'm more excited about that than I've ever been for Christmas! (sarcasm overdose?)

    For the second sentence & on: check out the link on the legalization of using propaganda against the American people: http://www.businessinsider.com/ndaa-l...

    Yep, it's been around for some time now. The hard part for most people is to discern between what's real and what is propaganda. Oh, by the way, it was legal in Nazi Germany to use propaganda on the German citizens too. Just sayin...the Holocaust was also legal too, in accordance to German law of the late 1930's.

    My point is everyone should be keeping a close eye on the laws that are being passed here. Watch for familiar patterns.
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  • Posted by edweaver 9 years, 4 months ago
    Well, if you feel safe now wait until they solve global warming. [major sarcasm]

    Does anyone think for a second that surveillance was not happening prior to the patriot act? They passed that law to make it legal and so companies that would not turn over information could be forced to more easily. To our government, the Freedom Act are only words on paper. Just look the other way if they don't fit the objective. No one will do anything about it.
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