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EPA: Better to freeze to death than heat with wood.

Posted by ObjectiveAnalyst 11 years, 1 month ago to Government
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What is next? Will they send inspectors to your home to sniff your chimney? The EPA is once again out of control! Wood burners beware! Campfires verboten?


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  • Posted by 11 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    Hello jlc,
    California has so much to offer. Its politicians/politics not so much... I feel for the few rational residents. If people were allowed to harvest and burn the dead wood in controlled ways wouldn't it help alleviate some of the wildfire problems?
    Regards,
    O.A.
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  • Posted by 11 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    Hello Tippecanoe,
    Where's Tyler? :)
    Yes, the progressive/environmentalist legacy. We must shake this pestilence once and for all. Many only recognize the history which they have lived... a serious shortcoming that we must rectify. We must revive the practice of teaching history and applying critical thinking.
    Regards,
    O.A.
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  • Posted by 11 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    Hello exindigo,
    Another armed dictatorial agency... Sad. When they arm enough of these agencies they will have the Gestapo they need for total domination.
    Regards,
    O.A.
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  • Posted by exindigo 11 years, 1 month ago
    Chinas main source of heating and cooking is coal. Even in large cities, workers can be seen carrying coal home in plastic bags exactly like those we are banning here. So how is the EPA going to regulate the massive output of particulates from China. Also, India uses charcoal as a primary heating and cooking fuel. Are we going to also regulate India? In emerging nations in Africa and South America, wood and coal are primary heating and cooking fuels. Are we going to regulate them too?

    After the EPA completely takes freedoms away, they will issue reports about how much this draconian order has reduced worldwide particulate levels. We are being screwed and screwed badly by a group of radical environmentalists who are so sure of their cause that even Jesuite true-believers blush at the extreme nature of environmentalists belief.

    Oh, a side point: EPA officials are not authorized to carry concealed in addition to being armed while working. What do EPA people need with guns? Why do they need to have concealed carry authorization like police? Does tyne EPA now have police powers?
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  • Posted by Stormi 11 years, 1 month ago
    This is just part of the UN Agenda 21 process, get everyone into the inner city apartments where the government controls what heat you may have. Those using wood, represent freedom instead of control.
    In Ohio, we don't use our fireplace, family allergies. However, when we cut down any of the trees on our wooded lot, we always have people take the wood who heat either their whole house, or their garage workshop with woodburning stoves.On the Navajo reservation,in the Four Corners area our Wast, we regularly have donated to buy such stoves for winter heating. There are a lot of areas that don't have natural gas lines, propane delivery to remote areas is not easy and there just is not electricity everywhere. The EPA does not care about the environment, or it would make weather control stations in the US, Russian and 20 other locations around the globe, including China and Scandinavia their focus. They are the ones heating the ionosphere and changing the jet stream.
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  • Posted by 11 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    Hello johnpe1,
    Big brother doesn't like independence. Trustworthiness is not high on their list either. :(
    Respectfully,
    O.A.
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  • Posted by johnpe1 11 years, 1 month ago
    Living in suburbia and tree farming on the side, we save about $5 every night when burning wood in cold weather. The woodstove is old, trustworthy and so are we.
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  • Posted by SolitudeIsBliss 11 years, 1 month ago
    Well, unless they go house to house how are they going to know who's burning wood? Bleep them. We'll burn what we want when we want !!
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  • Posted by 11 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    I always fillet my freshly caught fish and bury the remains around shrubs and trees that need some help. It does wonders!
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  • Posted by 11 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    Right now for me. Unfortunately it is just a bowl of Cambell's Chicken noodle today. But maybe this weekend I should whip up a pot of Venison soup... :)
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  • Posted by monalisaturberville1957 11 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    This is a wonderful recipe. I love to cook. Knowing your ingredients gives insight as to how well the recipe will come out and this is a good one. There is not onion. Is that on purpose? Have you ever tried diced tomato's in this recipe.. This is one I am going to make in the next few days.
    Today I am going to make catfish gumbo. yum yum.
    I thank you,
    Mona Lisa
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  • Posted by 11 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    Mmmm good. :)

    Venison Soup

    In a large stock pot:
    Brown 1-2 lbs of trimmed and chopped venison in 1-2 tbsp. Olive oil and ½-1 clove of garlic
    Then add
    3 Quarts water
    5 medium potatoes peeled and chopped
    4 med carrots chopped
    3 stalks celery chopped
    1 med onion chopped
    4 Tablespoons chopped parsley
    1 Quart tomato juice
    1 clove of garlic chopped
    Salt and pepper to taste aprox. 2 tablespoons salt and 1tsp black pepper
    Simmer for two hours
    Makes Aprox. 1&1/2 gal.

    Everyone loves it...
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  • Posted by 11 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    True enough. It is the private citizen or the small businessman (Wood stove makers...) who are without the resources to meet the challenge. The taxpayers fund their own persecution...
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  • Posted by $ blarman 11 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    While there is certainly possibility, the complexity of what you are talking about is enormous and subject to the characteristic frequency itself. You're not going to be able to get datalink speeds on any of the bands below Microwave simply because the frequency isn't high enough to support it. And the complexity of the components necessary to be able to scan a wide range of frequencies and automatically dial back bandwidth usage is going to mean very expensive components.

    Could it be done? Certainly. Can it be cost-effective? We'd have to see. Can it be done without government regulation? I'd like to think so, but the recent fights over bandwidth allocation have been all about money. So are you going to require civil services to pay to maintain exclusive rights to certain frequency ranges? Amateur radio certainly doesn't have the money to compete with Google, yet we serve as the backbone of communications response in times of disaster as well as for public service events.

    This seems to me to be one of the few examples where the natural laws of scarcity and allocation lend themselves to government oversight - as much as I hate to admit it.
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  • Posted by Zenphamy 11 years, 1 month ago
    I was raised with wood heat and cooking, hand drawn well water, and no indoor toilet. We had no money for anything else. But that doesn't matter to a bureaucrat. It would have been better that we froze to death than a little wood smoke in the air.
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  • Posted by $ jlc 11 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    Technically not so. The fireplace with a chimney (which is what we mean when we say 'fireplace') was invented in the 14th century. (Though the Romans had hypocausts.) The earliest method of heating was a campfire - outside or inside (as in an Anglo-Saxon or Norse great hall).

    FYI. Fireplaces and wood burning stoves are prohibited in LA County - even though there are catalytic converters that you can put in chimneys to reduce the emissions to EPA acceptable limits.

    Jan
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  • Posted by exindigo 11 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    They will solicit neighbors to turn other neighbors in. The same thing happened under Lenin and Stalin and Khrushchev. People turned in neighbors to "People's Committees" who were in charge of a myriad of public rules. In the end, most of the people turned in and sent to the Gulag were the victims of petty jealousy and insignificant local spats. We're headed in the same direction.
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