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EPA: Better to freeze to death than heat with wood.

Posted by ObjectiveAnalyst 11 years, 1 month ago to Government
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What is next? Will they send inspectors to your home to sniff your chimney? The EPA is once again out of control! Wood burners beware! Campfires verboten?


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  • Posted by RevJay4 11 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    Don't make me move to Argentina just to berate you for the images you paint with your posts. If I do that I may take a while to give you the tongue lashing you deserve, like, maybe the rest of my life. Sounds so good. So tired of the cold and the extreme heat in the summer. I'm thinking a move would do me good.
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  • Posted by RevJay4 11 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    No. They are after one thing, and only one thing. Power over the people where each and every one of us must kiss at the altar of government for everything in our lives. GW is just another excuse to reach that goal.
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  • Posted by RevJay4 11 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    Agreeing to buy a "pollution credit" gives validity to the claim of GW. How does the buying of said "credit" benefit society, other than lining someone's pocket? Who would be the seller?
    Who gets to say you can burn wood, a supposed pollutant, if you just pay for it? Then you get to pollute. Doesn't make sense.
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  • Posted by RevJay4 11 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    All they have to do is drive through neighborhoods and look in the backyards for the woodpiles. Still, I agree, "bleep" them.
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  • Posted by monalisaturberville1957 11 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    That opens the door to make government even bigger. Hmmm, let me think about it. I don't think so. We should not be forced by government to do what we have to do already. Why add something else to the dirty mix?
    I am of the mind that surely there are enough of us like minded folk out there to do away with the present government that is not working and begin a new one. I believe it has been said that is what" we the people" should do. The only way to turn this country around is to gather together and do something drastic. Talking about it is not working, has not worked. We cannot step into a parallel world, we actually have to be brave enough, willing enough, courageous enough to create change.
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  • Posted by $ rockymountainpirate 11 years, 1 month ago
    Wood burning stoves warm you 3 times.
    1. When you chop or split the wood
    2. When you stack a couple of cords to get you through the winter.
    3. When you're sitting in front of it.

    Now China has architects designing dooms to fight their pollution, but we can't allow wood burning stoves here in the U.S.
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  • Posted by monalisaturberville1957 11 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    What else need be said. Looks like I am in trouble again, oh well, let them come. Funny how wood for heat and cooking was a way of life long before now. I do not recall reading or hearing any statements about how harmful it was.
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  • Posted by $ blarman 11 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    It all depends on the propagation. I'm a Ham Radio operator and the thing that most people forget is that electromagnetic signals don't limit themselves to a specific area - they just keep going until they are absorbed. So many of the rules are created to take propagation into effect. Safety is also a factor, as high-frequency waves carry more energy. Then you also have to worry about things like interference and intermodulation distortion to devices that aren't even in the same range. On top of that, you have the scientific "best uses" for a given band and the conflict between private, commercial, and governmental use, because you have to designate the band for only one of these customers. That's quite a bit to juggle.

    While I don't think it is perfect, the FCC's rules for controlling the EM spectrum are some of the few based more on science than ideology.
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  • Posted by straightlinelogic 11 years, 1 month ago
    It may sound a bit harsh, but burning an EPA bureaucrat or two at the stake--with a wood-burning fire of course--has a certain appeal. That seems to be our only recourse against these toadying, small-minded, self-important, little tyrants.
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  • Posted by $ Susanne 11 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    The dotgov requires you to obey, as only they feel themselves wise enough to tell you the approved way of life and mandate you follow it for (of course) the commun, et, common good of the organized communistity...
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  • Posted by iroseland 11 years, 1 month ago
    first, the EPA has its head up its ass. After that, I could never see wood as anything more than supplemental. Granted, I am from Wisconsin where it takes a bit more than a few cords of wood to keep a home warm for a real winter, Also, my house on Juneau was originally coal heated, it even had a handy coal dropper lever that could be operated from the second floor master bedroom.. But, during renovations the quantity of coal heating remains found between the wall was pretty nasty. I had not thought that would be a big modern problem, but now in the Pacific Northwest we are in a home with less than adequate heating and even less than adequate insulation. So, we have been using the fireplace to supplement the BTU's that the furnace can come up with. Even that has made a bit of a annoying mess.. Given a choice I am a radiant heat under the clawfoot tub kind of guy. Still, I recognize that while I have grown up to not have to depend on wood for heat there are plenty of folk who really need that option and I would prefer that they dont freeze to death and that the best among them grow up to also not need wood for heat.
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  • Posted by Robbie53024 11 years, 1 month ago
    And somewhere I heard that houses with natural fireplaces are required to disable them so that they are inoperative prior to being able to be sold.
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  • Posted by ShruginArgentina 11 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    Unless I am mistaken, Belieze is in the tropics...and may have a sub-tropical climate.

    I lived in Sayulita, Nayarit, Mexico (year round) fo five years prior to moving to Argentina. The weather was great for six months of the year, but UNBEARABLE during the other six months.

    I love the weather where I live now. One month a bit colder than I like and one month slightly hotter.

    Who am I to complain?

    Who is John Galt?
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  • Posted by $ Susanne 11 years, 1 month ago
    Some states (or in our case, "Air Quality Control Districts") already have "no burn days", and they love it when the neighbors of such evil cellulose-incinerating miscreants turn them in for the appropriate givernment money grab and pssible re-education.

    Our new home (as 98% of the businesses and homes up here) had all-wood heat - all of the stoves (and the house) were built before 1978, and as such, the rule was, until they were removed they were "grandfathered". When we had one of them replaced with a propane stove, the remover had to "disassemble" the old one to render it inoperable to comply with the Big Brother Nose-in-your-business law. (Amazing how easy it would be to reassemble it, and likely commit a class IV felony in the process... Probably should have tunred it in so the Elected Lackeys could "recycle" it to their own privileged homes to keep me from being "anti-social"...)

    God forbid if someone opened, say, a steel mill or glass manufacturer or even a blacksmith forge here in the states... One, it takes work away from the far-eastern people's democratic republics, which is who we are supposed to be supporting before we "privileged Americcans", Two, the liberally-poisoned state governments would likely send the national guard in to shut it down, confiscate it, and turn it into something more 'politically acceptable", like a Shared Common Core/PETA Video Production Facility...
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  • Posted by ShruginArgentina 11 years, 1 month ago
    I have a "firewood forrest" outside my kitchen door and no one ever questions how much or where I burn the wood (which I cut myself) to heat my house in the winter (with no more than five nights below freezing) and an average daily high in the 40's).

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