Monsanto on trial for crimes against humanity by government mob

Posted by freedomforall 9 years, 4 months ago to Business
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While I would applaud a fair trial and restitution if guilty, my life experience leads me to believe that this is more llkely extortion by the world government mob that will not benefit anyone harmed by Monsanto. The 'world court' will fine Monsanto millions and those damaged will never see a penny.


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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The self help rule was put in place by the Supreme Court of The United States. Granted strange collection applies and and it is wierd but it is also true and a fact that law is now the law of the land. this land ....from the western highlands etc. the one made for you and me....
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  • Posted by $ Abaco 9 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I'm not sure how the self help rule applies, after reading that article again. My impression of this whole affair is "much about nothing". This strange collection of judges is powerless, it seems. Just a weird story...

    That said, and in reference to your very educational post on glyphosate, I try to reduce my family's exposure to the stuff. Can't avoid it, as it's everywhere.
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  • Posted by johnpe1 9 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    interesting;;; I hadn't thought about it that way.
    I thought that it was just pure defiance. -- j
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 4 months ago
    not much that is provably factual so I chose this Ntl Geo article as a representative and fairly balanced report. It's amazing how much BS is cut when posters provide facts, cites, and sources as we did when listing Rachel Carson as a human Weapon of Mass Destruction List with the US Government as her witting accomplices.

    What Do We Really Know About Roundup Weed Killer? April 2015 National Geographic

    By Elizabeth Grossman, National Geographic

    PUBLISHED Thu Apr 23 10:35:32 EDT 2015

    The world’s most widely-used herbicide has been getting a lot of attention lately.

    Last month, an international agency declared glyphosate, the primary ingredient in the popular product Roundup, a “probable human carcinogen.” The weed killer also has made recent headlines for its widespread use on genetically modified seeds and research that links it to antibiotics resistance and hormone disruption. Several national governments are planning to restrict its use, and some school districts are talking about banning it.

    So what do we know about glyphosate? Five key questions and answers:
    How Is Glyphosate Used?

    Introduced commercially by Monsanto in 1974, glyphosate kills weeds by blocking proteins essential to plant growth. It is now used in more than 160 countries, with more than 1.4 billion pounds applied per year.

    Glyphosate, often sold under the brand name Roundup, is probably in your garage or shed because it’s ranked as the second most widely used U.S. lawn and garden weed killer. These products have been promoted as easy-to-use and effective on poison ivy, kudzu, dandelions, and other weeds.

    But the primary use is by agriculture. Nearly all the corn, soy, and cotton now grown in the United States is treated with glyphosate.

    Its use skyrocketed after seeds were genetically engineered to tolerate the chemical. Because these seeds produce plants that are not killed by glyphosate, farmers can apply the weed killer to entire fields without worrying about destroying crops. Between 1987 and 2012, annual U.S. farm use grew from less than 11 million pounds to nearly 300 million pounds.

    “By far the vast use is on [genetically engineered] crops – corn, soy and cotton – that took off in the early to mid-nineties,” says Robert Gilliom, chief of surface water assessment for the US Geological Survey’s National Water Quality Assessment Program.

    In addition, some five million acres in California were treated with glyphosate in 2012 to grow almonds, peaches, onions, cantaloupe, cherries, sweet corn, citrus, grapes, and other edible crops.
    Picture of Roundup weed killer for sale at Home Depot

    Glyphosate, marketed by Monsanto as Roundup, is the second most popular weed killer for residential yards and gardens.
    Photograph by J. Blue, Bloomberg/Getty
    What Happens to Glyphosate in the Environment?

    Despite its widespread use, USGS hydrologist Paul Capel said there is “a dearth of information” on what happens to it once it is used.

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    Glyphosate is not included in the U.S. government’s testing of food for pesticide residues or the monitoring of chemicals in human blood and tissues. As a result, there is no information on how much people are exposed to from using it in their yards, living near farms or eating foods from treated fields.

    A recent USGS study sampled waterways in 38 states and found glyphosate in the majority of rivers, streams, ditches, and wastewater treatment plant outfalls tested. Not much was found in groundwater because it binds tightly to soil.

    Glyphosate also was found in about 70 percent of rainfall samples. It “attaches pretty firmly to soil particles” that are swept off farm fields then stay in “the atmosphere for a relatively long time until they dissolve off into water,” Capel says.
    What About Exposure Through Food?

    Before genetically engineered crops, glyphosate residues in food were considered unlikely, says Charles Benbrook, research professor at Washington State University’s Center for Sustaining Agriculture and Natural Resources. But since about 2005, pre-harvest use of glyphosate “results in very high residues,” he says. Traces were found in 90 percent of 300 soybean samples.

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    "Hard information is sparse there are a lot of could , probably, maybe, might sort of qualifications. Unlike with DDT which was pulled without replacement and caused the deaths of millions there seems to have been no 'rush to judgement ' however if one read the label and followed directions...which people won't do......etc etc etc...ad nauseum
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    One of the things we do allow is the 'self help' rule. The US ruled it legal in a court case involving a Mexican National whom Mexico refused to extradite to the US. A 'mercenary' force was sent in they brought the MexNat back. 1985...Some 30 years ago. The ruling was a double edge sword as 'self help' then became legal in the USA.

    Normally trial in another sovereign jurisdiction requires an extradition treaty. The UN has no soveriegn status it is not a country nor does the World Court.

    However any crime committed in foreign country by a US Citizen is subject to the laws of that country. The State Department is not noted for being of much help.

    US jurisdiction in these matters stops three miles offshore and on the border with Mexico and Canada.

    Monsanto representatives, factories, dealers etc in foreign countries are subject to the laws of those countries some having laws that recognize World Court Jurisdiction.

    Rachel Carson remains unindicted.
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  • Posted by $ Abaco 9 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I don't know.

    But, if you commit a crime in a foreign country you will be apprehended and stand trial in their court. I'm not saying I agree with any of this. I'm just trying to answer your question.
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  • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 9 years, 4 months ago
    Yep, the victims get squat! The Lawyers and the kakistocracy makes out like bandits...Oh, that's right...they ARE bandits.
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  • Posted by johnpe1 9 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    and Galt was tortured with a device using a voltage
    multiplier which he had to fix. -- j
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 9 years, 4 months ago
    Is the article intended to be sarcastic? I actually can't tell.

    In the first paragraph lists toxic chemicals they're accused of introducing. The few of them I happen be knowledgeable about are actually not toxic. Maybe none of them are.

    They will have to "answer for their reign of terror" and "atrocious acts".

    It almost seems like a parody. First Monsanto makes some controversial products, but there's no scientific evidence of harm. Popular opinion is against them, regardless of the science, so gov't harasses them. Then a rightwing news outlet reports on it, but they cannot help but write like crazed idiots, regardless of the topic. I can't tell if the author is truly critical of Monsanto, doing a parody of Monsanto's critics, doing a general parody of the hyperbolic tone of rightwing blogs.
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  • Posted by 9 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    And only a few GMO's are 'roundup ready' which is the link to glyphosate. The vast majority of GMO's have no glyphosate connection at all.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Since when does a US corporation or individual for that matter come under a foreign court?

    How many divisions does the World Court have?
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  • Posted by Danno 9 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The mechanism for illness in humans is the gut bacteria have the plant gene glyphosate targets. Glyphosate is detected in most persons serum and is in our lakes and rivers and soil now in materially quantities.
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  • Posted by $ jdg 9 years, 4 months ago
    Monsanto hasn't harmed anybody. Their opponents, the anti-growth eco-nut movement, constantly do. Why aren't they the ones on trial?
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  • Posted by $ Abaco 9 years, 4 months ago
    "The 'world court' will fine Monsanto millions and those damaged will never see a penny." - You are probably correct. Know who the farmers are. Know who the livestock is...
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  • Posted by 9 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I really wish that the free market could bring back cane sugar to prepared foods instead of corn syrup. G and T is much better with sugar in the tonic ;^)
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  • Posted by broskjold22 9 years, 4 months ago
    Monsanto is exploiting the plant genetic resources of the planet, blargh!
    If I had a penny...
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  • Posted by $ Abaco 9 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    It never will. I think that the amount of pesticides a citizen consumes is proportional to the amount of lobbying Monsanto does in their country.

    ...To see the farm is to leave it....
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  • Posted by 9 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    While I agree that Monsanto has not acted in good faith, not all GMO's should be banned when one company arguably has some products that have side effects and the company has arguably used unethical methods to hide it.
    (I avoid fluoride except when unavoidable.)
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  • Posted by KevinSchwinkendorf 9 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Organic is great, except that the cost is much greater (that's the supply/demand equation in economics). Maybe most people won't mind spending twice as much on food, but then as demand increases, prices will climb higher. Another constraint on the food supply is the diversion of all that corn and soy beans into ethanol (corn) and bio diesel (soy beans).
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  • Posted by 9 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Points out a big advantage when a CEO (e.g., Rearden) has more than 50% of voting shares and can make decisions for the long term.
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