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Mainstream Media Journalist Exposes How the US ‘War on Terror’ Increased Terrorism by 4,500%

Posted by Zenphamy 9 years, 4 months ago to Politics
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So after all the talk in last night's Republican Debate about ISIS and Muslim Terrorists, let's back up a little bit and take a closer look at what $6,000,000,000,000.00, 7,000 KIA's, and 22 Veteran Suicides/Day has accomplished since we started the "WAR ON TERROR", and what we can expect from a future under "leadership" by a large part of the Republican Party or the Democratic Party.
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From the article:
“According to reports from our own U.S. government, reports of deaths from terrorism in the Middle East between 2002 and 2014 have increased 4,500 percent.

But let’s go a little deeper. Take for instance just the country of Iraq. Before the 2003 U.S. invasion, do you know how many suicide attacks there were in Iraq? None. In the country’s history there had never been one. But since the 2003 invasion, there have been 1,892.

And what about Afghanistan? Just last year alone, insurgents killed 2,643 civilians last year—the highest number since U.N. records began.

How about Pakistan? In the 14 years prior to 9/11 there was one suicide attack on Pakistani soil. In the 14 years since, there have been 486 suicide attacks.

The same is true in the past 14 years in Somalia (88), Yemen (85), Libya (29), Nigeria (91), and Syria (165).”
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And where are the 1.5million Christians that were living in their native country of Iraq before 2003? That's a question for Conservatives.




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  • Posted by 9 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Do you forget who put "SoDaminsane" as you call him, in place in Baghdad in the first place or who funded his weapons and war with Iran, that he then turned on Kuwait. But then again, maybe you're happy with and proud of our foreign policy of the last many years.
    But if we're going to keep on with that part of the world as we've done in the last few years and take the oil, let's admit it up front. Let's know why we're spending our(We The People) treasure, our reputation, and our blood and who's benefiting from it.
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  • Posted by 9 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    No, I'm not saying that and I don't think that was the import of the articles author. I think we're in a mess over there, but in order to resolve it, hopefully in our favor, we need to stop all the false narrative and gain a full and open understanding of what we truly face, both in the Mid East and more importantly, here in the US. We also need to face our parts in starting the mess, both overtly and covertly. We as well must accept dealing with that area and it's population as it exists today, not based on the false narratives of the past or the lies of today.

    Part of that needs to be the cost in treasure, reputation, and blood of the last many years, but also to accept that after all is said and done--It is our country, our treasure, and our blood. Not that of our 'leaders'.

    I for one, am extremely tired of being manipulated and lied to. Information such as that in the article may be disturbing in either it's revelations or in the way it's presented, but we need to see it, process it, and analyze it with reality and as many facts as we can discover for ourselves--not just the continual line of BS we're so used to playing around in.
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 9 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    "propping up so-called friends who are brutal dictators and who play the US like a fiddle, and the surveillance state at home. Keep up the good work"
    Yes! I wish we could move a little in the direction of a small standing army and armed citizens standing ready to defend the country if it should ever be needed.
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 9 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    "you could have died in the next attack."
    I'm so much more likely to die of a heart attack, a bike accident, or pancreatic cancer that political extremism is not even on my radar.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 4 months ago
    Let's examine the verbiage.. The war on terror increased by4,500 % or 45 times one hundred. 45 x 100 = 4500 percent. In what terms or relative to what? Money Spent? Bodies on the ground or in support. Body bags used? Ammunition expenditures? Area covered?
    Active and Reserve units deployed, Our dead, their dead, collateral dead and while we're at it. what is the definition of collateral and then what phases. Since the invasion in 2003 and then how is the percentage of ...what?...divided between administrations in which ever terms it refers to.

    My theory is newspapers and tv time and related advertisng sold. Or perhaps the income of the author? Not the poster....the originator(s) of the information. Is it, like million man march, 100,000 cops in the street, or balanced budget with a surplus pure BS or is it hard fact. Trouble is the whole comment is subjective. What figures are provided have no source....following the source URL one is bumped to somebody named Ben Swann who is quoting US Government Figures where most of the above comes from but....once again...no cites no sources. It could be be the daily sow belly futures for all we know..

    While I would like to use such information I stop at using anything that is not sourced. The trail ran cold four or five layers with only something called the Global Terrorism Index likewise not sourced other than stating 'Government Figures.' Associates were a plethora of World Peace this and that llikewise dead ends. Which left curiously enough New York Times, Washington Post. Huffington and The Guardian.

    On the other hand they claimed to be big time objectivists. All those figures and not one source? Shades of Ayn Rands immigration forgery. Sounds good. You want it to be good but...Where's the beef?

    Disappointing to say the least. Unusable to be perfectly honest.

    I will stand corrected when I hear moooooo instead of "Parts is parts!"
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  • Posted by johnpe1 9 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Michael, I just found that your comments are hidden
    when I bring up a new view of a post. . what's going on? -- j
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  • Posted by johnpe1 9 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I meant that we as a country, based on the choices of the people,
    should have focused our effort more carefully when using military
    force -- for example, we could have continued on to remove
    SoDamInsane from Baghdad after helping the Kuwaitis, etc.
    or, we could have let Kuwait burn and relied on new tech
    in the Dakotas earlier than we did. . Rand had Ellis Wyatt
    claiming shale oil in the fifties. . we could have, too. -- j
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  • Posted by Bethesda-gal 9 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    So are you saying that you support the notion that if the U.S. flipped a switch and starting immediately didn't spend another penny on our military that ISIS et al would vanish ??! That is what I took the article to say which I think has no factual basis. Again, whether we fund and fight against terror or not -- the enemy gets a vote! That is more than a pithy saying. There is a concerted and well organized effort to re-establish the caliphate, and anyone who disbelieves that is naive.
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  • Posted by 9 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I hope you mean 'We the People' when you say "we should have" and maybe that response should have been directed towards the evil that's been running this country's foreign policy and activities since WWII.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Doesn't really matter if it's one percent or 4499% and if it includes ALL forms of terrorism including those home grown.
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  • Posted by 9 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    So, I gather that your rationalizations of 'democratization', Bush did good but Obama screwed it up, ISIS killed a few Christians, and WMD's (Give Me A Break) are supposed to serve as justifications and retorts of the article referenced, and re-direct our attention to some type of 'political' answer. I think maybe you missed the point of the article.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 4 months ago
    the only thing truly wrong with the thread ar the words main stream media coupled to free thought. That's a new oxymoron on me. But I managed to deal with it and got through all of it only to find out....it's still an oxymoron. However there is enough tar to go around as long as we don't try to excuse one half of the leftist government party by blaming the other half.
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  • Posted by $ blarman 9 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Not sure what you wish to say. I agree that the deposition of dictators such as Qaddhafi and Mubarak has removed a check on the proliferation of the radical theological elements. All I'm pointing out is that they've always been there.

    We (the West) didn't create the monster, we just ignorantly cut several of the chains binding it.
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  • Posted by dbhalling 9 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The best thing the US can do to reduce terrorism is to get its own act in order. I think a plausible case can be made that if the US had not followed the wrong economic policies under Hoover and FDR, Hitler would have died as a minor note in history.
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  • Posted by 9 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Who said it's decreased? As much as I despise Obama, I despise Bush I and II just as much. Are you seriously trying to imply that the story would have been any different had the Conservative choice of McCain or Romney been elected?
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    As for the Christians....they aren't allowed in Iran. In Iraq they were genocided and the remainder are underground churdhes., in Syria they have gone underground and in the current news articles in one about people sending email christmas trees tho those hiding out. Of course it's all there fault of course how dare they be Christians in Obombistan?
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