Gary Johnson Runs Again: The Best Third Party Option?
Posted by ObjectiveAnalyst 9 years, 3 months ago to Politics
Governor Johnson runs as a Libertarian again... again...
Is he high? Has his memory been so adversely effected that he can't recall his past failures? :)
Okay, all joking aside; Gov. Johnson has some attractive policies. But, does he now have the persona or the persuasive capacity to be a viable candidate, or will he just be seen as a despoiler in the next election?
It seems clear Sen. Paul is not likely to get the GOP nomination. Should he run as a third party candidate? Could/should he join forces with Gov. Johnson, or run against him for the Libertarian party support?
I know some of you will relish a third party alternative, while others will not.
Let the contest begin!
Respectfully,
O.A.
Is he high? Has his memory been so adversely effected that he can't recall his past failures? :)
Okay, all joking aside; Gov. Johnson has some attractive policies. But, does he now have the persona or the persuasive capacity to be a viable candidate, or will he just be seen as a despoiler in the next election?
It seems clear Sen. Paul is not likely to get the GOP nomination. Should he run as a third party candidate? Could/should he join forces with Gov. Johnson, or run against him for the Libertarian party support?
I know some of you will relish a third party alternative, while others will not.
Let the contest begin!
Respectfully,
O.A.
It is easy, I guess, for a constituent to write to his Congresscritter, although who actually writes and sends messages on actual physical media any more? People may also not know that ever since the anthrax scares some years ago all mail (letters and packages) destined for the legislative offices is opened and inspected for contaminants - resulting in a terrific delay in delivery. I don't think postcards suffer the same fate.
I have also heard that:
- a physical letter is weighted as representing the opinion of a large number of constituents
- a hand written physical letter counts more than a typed one because it's not a form letter
- a phone call to the office counts as the opinion of many constituents but I don't know how it ranks against letters.
- a fax counts less than a letter
- an email counts less than fax
I had heard that some congresscritters don't count emails at all because so many of them are generated by web sites. See, for example, how DownsizeDC.org and gunowners.org (GOA) both make it very, very easy for a constituent to send a msg that goes through the official's contact-me web page. Those web pages were initially designed to ensure real people were sending messages (as opposed to any group with 1 clever member who can generate hundreds of thousands of emails). But clever and persistent programmers designed systems that automate sending messages through the official web contact forms.
Without regard to the method of contact, this statement is troubling in its truthiness," if a politician's mail is running largely for or against something the politicians usually follow their constituents". That sounds great, especially when the majority agrees with ME, but in reality that describes a democracy. I'd rather live under a benevolent dictator than a democracy! If only we could all sleep tight with the knowledge that our elected federal servants were fighting tooth and nail every day to protect the Constitution. It's not perfect but it's lightyears ahead of anything that came before it, or since as far as I know. In our real world, the one that Objectvism demands we recognize, the federal House and Senate started breaking their oaths to defend the Constitution beginning with Congressional Session #1. For anyone who's interested and doesn't know the story, do a web search on Davey Crockett's run for re-election. A prominent farmer in his district put the fear of Zeus into him for one of the votes he cast.
To say nothing of the fact that most of these "conservatives" sell out to the left at the first opportunity. Five years after Republicans re-took the House (and thus the purse strings) Obamacare is still alive and funded.
Are these the people we really want to rely on, and vote for, to preserve what's left of our freedom? At least third parties give us a means of protest and a place to go when both "major" parties betray our principles and our trust.
If you are referring to the non-Rino majority they are still Republicans and at the very very least enablers.
There is a one of them who doesn't believe in Government over citizens which makes them staunch leftists although yippy yappy puppy dogs is a better descriiption.
I don't know why they do they do. They give the appearance of representing people who are sacred and confused and willing to give up their money and rights to a gov't that assuages their fears.
The only part I have a significantly different take on is I think it's easy for the average citizen to write her congressman and senator in an intelligible way and that if a politician's mail is running largely for or against something the politicians usually follow their constituents.
Yes. Just keeping nominal gov't spending constant year-to-year would be a huge coup.
The short answer is the Republicans (unless Rand Paul gets the nomination) are worse.
Trump has proven he will use government power unethically. Trump is scum, period. He has proven that he can't be trusted with power on behalf of others.
Vote for Trump and expect to be treated just like the private property owners he unethically acted to destroy.
I think we are all guilty of using government immoralities to our advantage. The government is into so many things, like using eminent domain to build roads that we all drive on, like developing drugs with tax money that we use (and dont even know about). What a mess. Trump was on the cutting edge of using immoral eminent domain laws, but i still say he would be better than Hillary.
THis is exactly what you can expect from the arrogant, hubrist, looter HRM Trump.
All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men vote for evil.
But the problem is that the government tried to sieze the property with the eminent domain laws (which are the real intrusion on private property). Trump did try to USE the law to his benefit, but the problem is not trump, but the law itself.
That is by the way the price. Atlas Society meeting in Las Vegas good place to present a basic outline and ask for the comment. Primarily what is your sacred ground and what are your willing to set aside for the moment. Secondarily what seat at what table. Alison for SecTreas for one. Third would you consider goinig for VP initially as a camel's nose tactic.
My vote isn't cheap.
Using labels accurately means that "true" conservatives are really Classical Liberals and NEOCONs and Liberal/Progressives are really the ones leading us towards the Brave New World of Huxley or 1984, etc. of Orwell.
Scary thought as to just how out of touch most Americans are as to their true political leanings!
there will NEVER be a candidate that a voter will agree with 100% on every issue no matter what party i agree with conservatives on some issues and libertarians on other issues..... the lib isn't going to win anything third party right now so my vote will go to a conservative .... you need to win an election to bring change.... and at this point in history progressives need to be taken down and taken down hard.....
i would vote libertarian IF you show me one that has a chance of winning ..... as long as a progressive is in charge... we ALL lose
If you want liberty you have the choice: vote for the third party against the statists, or band together to stop the statists by force.
for the rest of you Rand comment is three answers, right, wrong compromise. Which makes one right and two wrong answers. That applies to supporting the left an openly discussed and set up coalition answers the questions and corrects the false premises. Porterhouse versus turkey dogs.
There is a reason they are called splinter party's and disregarded and ignored. It's the definition of splinter.
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