Gary Johnson Runs Again: The Best Third Party Option?

Posted by ObjectiveAnalyst 9 years, 3 months ago to Politics
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Governor Johnson runs as a Libertarian again... again...

Is he high? Has his memory been so adversely effected that he can't recall his past failures? :)

Okay, all joking aside; Gov. Johnson has some attractive policies. But, does he now have the persona or the persuasive capacity to be a viable candidate, or will he just be seen as a despoiler in the next election?

It seems clear Sen. Paul is not likely to get the GOP nomination. Should he run as a third party candidate? Could/should he join forces with Gov. Johnson, or run against him for the Libertarian party support?

I know some of you will relish a third party alternative, while others will not.

Let the contest begin!

Respectfully,
O.A.


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  • Posted by Rex_Little 9 years, 3 months ago
    Realistically, no Objectivist or libertarian is going to be elected President, even if they run as a major party candidate--because the American electorate is scared silly of anyone with a shred of ideological consistency, no matter what sort. Those of you old enough to remember what happened to Barry Goldwater and George McGovern know I'm right.
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  • Posted by richrobinson 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    None of the 3 remaining Democratic candidates want a smaller less intrusive government. Why would you vote for any of them over a Republican?
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  • Posted by richrobinson 9 years, 3 months ago
    It depends on the Republican nominee. If an establishment candidate wins the nomination I would vote for Johnson. He is not a viable alternative, however, because he won't get the attention Perot did and has no chance of winning. Trump would have a shot as a third party candidate but most likely we would be stuck with Hillary.
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  • Posted by fosterj717 9 years, 3 months ago
    Rand Paul would definitely make the more attractive candidate in that scenario because he has ample name recognition. As for Gov Johnson, by all means he should consider a run because it all depends on how the Republican primaries and how the R establishment handles this election.

    Keep in mind, in this climate and time a 3rd party candidate who espouses Conservative (notice I did not say big R Republican) ideals will have a strong candidacy because there is so much disgust with the Republicans who are in control in Washington. With the exception of a few (I.e., Rand Paul, Ted Cruz and Ben Carson) the rest are pretty much "go along to get along" types who do little if anything to restore the Constitution, fiscal responsibility, or a limiting of an out of control leviathan called the "Federal Government".

    The problem with a viable 3rd party candidacy is that it will drain votes from the "R's" however, because of the sorry state of our country, the destruction of a moribund apparatus may be a good thing because out of the ashes perhaps a new and revitalized party that understands where it must go will come into being.

    Right now, we have a status quo even with R's in power for the most part that has done absolutely nothing to stem our slide into a Socialist morass. If they are not going to resist as the "loyal opposition" then what does it matter which label they give themselves. All trickery that outsiders can and must highlight and defeat!

    For what its worth!
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  • Posted by cem4881 9 years, 3 months ago
    I am delighted Gary Johnson is running again. His name already has recognition from his previous elected post as governor of New Mexico. His experience will be invaluable. I am told he would ban the burqa! After thinking about it and listening to all the people moan and groan about stepping on rights to practice your religion, I suddenly realized he was right. The burqa is not a matter of choice for these women, their rights are violated being made to wear it. Why should we allow their community to violate their rights?
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    Posted by $ jbrenner 9 years, 3 months ago
    I voted for former NM governor Gary Johnson for president before. I will probably do so again.
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  • Posted by freedomforall 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Your comments on a bunch of looters and thieves in the GOP don't indicate anything about an independent candidate. I can't discern from your comments what "situation" you are referring to.
    A simple Google search on "Gary Johnson libertarian" (without the quotes) returns 831,000 results including lots of details on him. Give it a try and you will likely find good and bad about him, lots more than the MSM will cover since they serve the state, and Johnson (if elected) would likely start to dismantle it.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    In that case then Johnson isn't applicable to the situation. I was hoping for something on him or others a bit more concrete but .....not even footnotes.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Now there is a plan....can you entice others besides libertarians in support of that effort. Given the split between libertarians and objectivists. How do you evaluate chances on a nation wide basis both grass roots and in Congress?

    My Fiorini plan was half humor and half a look at the reality of taking advantage of a some awesome cracks in and chinks int he armor of the left. The key was the VP with fiorini as the camel's nose and the VP as the camel obviously not just another Rino. but a solid individual grounded in the Constitution and a background in fiscal responsibility.

    the problem is breaching the closed election system wall the left has built around the process as the neo- original definition conservatives they give the term a bad name but they are the party in power from Rino to Dino to Comrade.

    It can't be done with out some kind of coalition focused on the main issue first and the secondary non sacred grouond issues later.

    Cease Enabling
    Take Control
    Make Changes
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  • Posted by Texian 9 years, 3 months ago
    I have libertarian values love Ron Paul and Harry Browne but they've been around as a party for almost 50 years without success... My libertarian friends and I are infesting the GOP with far greater success than I've ever seen in the Libertarian Party. Ultimately a libertarian takeover of the GOP has a far greater chance of achieving my goals of a limited and microscopic government but I just have a hard time believing the US won't crumble before folks finally 'wake-up' and see freedom as the ultimate solution.
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 9 years, 3 months ago
    I'm curious how many people would vote for a moderate libertarian candidate if there were some instant runoff system that allowed you to vote a 2nd choice if your 1st choice did not get a majority. I would vote libertarian (or some moderate form of libertarian that respects IP rights) every time if I weren't afraid of indirectly helping a Republican.

    "he denied he would be siphoning votes only from the Republican candidate"
    I agree. I'm certainly not the only Democrat who wants a smaller, less intrusive gov't but would rather settle for a traditional establishment Democrat than risk getting a Republican.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I'm going to do the same thing as has been done to me ...in reverse. Play the Devil's Advocate. What good will that do? No real backing. Reason is the source that claimed to have the good on Rand then listed blind alley references leading nowhere. Name recognition? What did I forget? Oh yes we don't support Libertarians and FEE. Paul? He quit the Libertarian, joined the Republicans and came out for a Pelosi style left wing tax Damaged goods. Also ducks questions. Color him quack quack quack. I looked through the article and saw nothing to get me excited that was better than that already suggested.

    So far....Webb would outclass him and so would Jindal. Besides WE want someone who can beat Hillary no matter what else happens.

    add to that give the Republicans another chance. I'm sure I forgot some of the reasons....But ALL of that aside....If and when and IF I see some solid facts at least as solid as the one's I presented for Fiorino Just color me Devils Advocate.....

    I reserve the right to call the witness later depending on his testimony. Facts in evidence post judice not prejudicial.
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    Posted by freedomforall 9 years, 3 months ago
    Johnson would be the most rational choice for individual liberty and free markets.
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