Gary Johnson Runs Again: The Best Third Party Option?

Posted by ObjectiveAnalyst 9 years, 3 months ago to Politics
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Governor Johnson runs as a Libertarian again... again...

Is he high? Has his memory been so adversely effected that he can't recall his past failures? :)

Okay, all joking aside; Gov. Johnson has some attractive policies. But, does he now have the persona or the persuasive capacity to be a viable candidate, or will he just be seen as a despoiler in the next election?

It seems clear Sen. Paul is not likely to get the GOP nomination. Should he run as a third party candidate? Could/should he join forces with Gov. Johnson, or run against him for the Libertarian party support?

I know some of you will relish a third party alternative, while others will not.

Let the contest begin!

Respectfully,
O.A.


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  • Posted by archerb55 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    i could better understand voting for a third party IF the effort was put into developing that third party into a viable choice. at one point i thought the 'tea party' would come through and develope... obviously not. libertarians have always been around but in my eyes have done nothing to perpetuate the party. there needs to be a movement of sorts in the 'off season' to rally voters behind their cause. and until there is a concerted effort among third party candidates and or voters to do so..... we will be stuck in this two party system until that happens, my vote goes to the conservative who best reflects my political beliefs and morals. ANY conservative or republican is going to be better than what we have or what we will get because some voters insist on going third party change happens one step at a time. and if one thinks a third party will take an election by storm and make it all better again, then they are sadly mistaken and this country will continue its spiral into nothingness. in my view ANY conservative is going to be better than a progressive liberal..... they may indeed be more of the same, but the spiral will be slowed down enough to make whatever third party grow into something viable.
    voting third party does what? satisfy what? and prove what? in the meantime we sit in this blog and complain about how this country is going down the tubes? how our freedoms are being eroded one by one? God forbid any of us pick a conservative that closely matches our views and work to get them elected. we are much to stubborn for the likes of that.....
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  • Posted by term2 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    He isn't a "conservative,". But the USA is a huge business that has nearly been destroyed by out of controlbspending, stupid foreign policies, and political correctness. I think trump will be the best shot poo t we have to counter these trends, and he is electable. The alternative is Hillary who would continue Obama policies
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  • Posted by xthinker88 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I put this comment elsewhere but it fits better here.

    Every time you vote for the lesser of two evils you are voting for more evil.

    And as a practical matter, Trump spent his whole life as a progressive democrat. His earlier books were chock full of progressive democrat ideas. He made his fortune off stealing property through eminent domain. Sorry that he's now got you hoodwinked into believing he is some sort of conservative. Even more sorry that he's hoodwinked so many others.
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  • Posted by $ CBJ 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    In every presidential election, people are told that they are “wasting their vote” if they vote for the Libertarian candidate.

    As one who has voted for every Libertarian presidential candidate since 1972, I think the exact opposite is true. By voting for my principles, my votes over the years have had far more impact than if I had allowed the two “establishment” parties to dictate my choices.

    Consider this: no matter how you have voted for President in the past, your vote has never made a difference in the outcome. Nor will it do so in the future. Even if you live in a “swing state” that could go either way, your lone vote will not spell the difference between victory and defeat for either establishment party candidate.

    So if you can’t change the election outcome, why vote at all? The answer is that by voting Libertarian, you will be adding to the vote totals of the only party that consistently supports individual freedom. And those vote totals matter – the establishment parties pay close attention when a significant number of voters break with the two-party system, and they will often modify their stands on certain issues to protect their base and prevent further defections.

    On the other hand, if you vote for the “lesser of two evils,” you are saying in effect, “I support the political status quo. I have faith in the two-party system, and I’m not interested in supporting candidates from other parties, even if they have fresh ideas that I agree with. I don’t like either of the two establishment party candidates, but I will vote for Establishment Party Candidate X because he is not quite as bad as Establishment Party Candidate Y.” This truly is a waste of your vote, and does nothing to advance the cause of freedom.
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  • Posted by archerb55 9 years, 3 months ago
    third party is all well and good..... However, third party will never win a national election. unfortunatly we live in a two party system. i realize we all want change and the third party for some is very inviting. a third party libertarian will only steal the votes from the republicans (conservative) party which makes the election of a progressive liberal that much easier.....maybe sometime in the future this country will move to a three or four party system but 2016 is not that time.....
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  • Posted by bsmith51 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The Ron Paul people packed the ballots with candidates for Precinct Committee Officers in my county a few years ago. With the majority they gained in the county, they completely turned out the moderates who had been running the Party for years according to instructions from on high. Now we actually have a voice and have made the local party a bottom-up organization. But the moderates who were turned out are still mad as hell. In the last quarterly meeting, with 76 total in attendance, 25 walked out in the middle, took their marbles and went home.
    Politics goes to those who show up. But it ain't easy, and there's little thanks for it.
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  • Posted by term2 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    This sounds more like Hillary or Obama than Trump. We will see what happens though.
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  • Posted by freedomforall 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I understand and disagree (as you already know;^)
    I think Trump will accelerate the decline in the direction of dictatorship. I can easily imagine asset forfeiture laws including transfers directly to corporate looters with only a bit of paperwork .
    As a Republican he will get little or no resistance from the parasites in the Dark Center. Just after election he will propose new gun restrictions, licensing, and "voluntary" confiscation "for our protection."
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Ergo sum the exact reason I put into my Fiorino update version Johnson and WHO? It has a coalition feature that answers that concern.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Excellent! What are you Constitutionalists planning for this go round? What is the current website address??

    I claim three titles recovering cynical realist, objectivist in training and unaffiliated Constitutional Centrist. i just put a post up on Cruz vs Obama and place of birth requirement.
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  • Posted by freedomforall 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I like the parties you list, but I'd send all the politicians mentioned "to the moon."
    All the national politicians have proven they are incompetent to represent the best interests of free people. They need to be retired, by force if required.
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  • Posted by DavidRawe 9 years, 3 months ago
    Im a member of the US Constitution party. I even ran at the state level against a Republican and Libertarian. While coming in 3rd i was very close to the Libertarian. I think we really need to break away from the Reps and Dems (I feel that they are one mega-party anyway). Its time for The People to be empowered!
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  • Posted by term2 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I know we disagree on this, and thats ok. I just think its more efficient to pick the least bad alternative if we are given only two electable choices in our system. I would rather have a few more years of more freedom rather than less. I think the crash is a slow and agonizing 40-50 years in the future with more and more freedoms being relinquished by the likes of clinton, sanders, and such. Thats why I go for Trump, as he will slow the inevitable slide towards socialism for a few years.
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  • Posted by freedomforall 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Only unelectable if conservative voters insanely continue down the GOP's proven road to servitude.
    Liberty must be defended or lost. Conservative voters have the choice to save American liberty or deliver America to its evil enemies.
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