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On REAL ID, DHS Caves Once Again

Posted by $ AJAshinoff 9 years, 3 months ago to Government
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States rights.


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  • Posted by dbhalling 9 years, 3 months ago
    Right to travel. Much more fundamental than states rights.
    Cato is using this to say that it will never happen and people are just conspiracy kooks.
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  • Posted by $ 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I'm not really sure I understand you. If I go for a driver license have I ceded my ownership of self? Mind you, a license is only needed to travel on public roadways and anyone can operate a vehicle on a farm with or without a license.
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  • Posted by edweaver 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    You are so correct. And it will be implemented quietly when people are not paying attention. Of course that is somewhere in the vicinity of 364 days a year anymore.
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  • Posted by edweaver 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I was afraid someone was going to tell me that. But then again, I knew the answer to that question so not a surprise.
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  • Posted by Zenphamy 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Am I the person that owns something or am I the son or father of so-and-so. And that's usually answered by witnesses. What else?
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  • Posted by richrobinson 9 years, 3 months ago
    I don't think they caved. They moved the deadline. Socialists are patient. They know something will happen and a time will come when this can be implemented. Eliminate the deadline and DHS.
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  • Posted by Zenphamy 9 years, 3 months ago
    When you give up your right to be left alone and allow someone else to give you your identification, you've lost all rights of self ownership.
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  • Posted by khalling 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    well, I would agree there are reasons for contracting to have some way of identifying yourself-but the state should never be involved in controlling or issuing IDs. Remember, it is a very recent event that you have a SS number-now tied to your ID which govt PROMISED would NEVER happen. ha
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  • Posted by $ 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Not sure I entirely agree... I can think of many reasons in society to have a form of identification. Now asking for that ID or being required to show ID is another matter entirely.
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  • Posted by $ 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Wouldn't Natural Rights be not having to show or possess any ID at all? ID is for societal purposes.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 3 months ago
    They will have a machine at the check point it will have a churman accent.

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  • Posted by edweaver 9 years, 3 months ago
    Show me your papers. Reminds me of what I learned in history about Germany in the 1930's. Are we really on that path?
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 3 months ago
    If the comments reminded you of Hillary it's the same mold. The left is NOT going to jeopardize their work of 100 years plus for he sake of any certain incremental step now instead of later. They are not going to back any one candidate if it means losing ground instead of just waiting out the interest and they are happy with which ever candidate wins secure that it will be one of theirs. In the meantime they will plug the cracks, loopholes and possibilities for losing control. They are nothing if not patient.

    The groundswell of interest, disgust, and dislike this time around is spreading faster than they they foresaw. they have huge problems with the economy just around the corner and a major part of the cycle of economic repression to oversee what some have described as recession part II where the bills from part I come due. There is an internal split between aristocratic neo feudalist ruling class elites the traditional establishment and the...what I'll call the well funded nouveau riche upstart jump ups that needs management and settling down.

    But the have gained ground co-opting the two party system into a one coalition group system. OTher than a few squeakers who, except for two have all caved. They have Cruz a foreign born running for office - without benefit of court ruling or amendment just opinion of some and even then Cruz has supported the left's tax systems openly. They have Trump who is somewhere between Rino and National Socialist but a full time looter. When you think about it everything he supports helps the left one way or another and they have a splintered divided ineffective opposition other than the anger of the great unwashed. Which won't last much past the next football season. It's time for them to pat the mob on the head and say, we hear you, while doing what they always do. two steps forward one step back repeat.

    So how does that ground swell become a tsunami? How does it turn to our advantage? How does it put us back under the Constitution? Because some left wing approved candidate says edicts will be canceled?

    Takes more than that. Or it will disappear by before the next off season elections.

    Hillary is their number one candidate and their greatest danger at this time. With her continuing the pressure begun by Obeyme ninth and tenth amendments will continue to be - ignored.

    For some reason I keep returning to Carly Fiorini as a camel's nose candidate IF the right VP is picked for four years later. The current crop has come a cropper for that job.

    Failing that ...marginalizing the claim of representation with greater than 50% non registered and of those registered greater than 50% not voting.

    Either way it's a counter-revolution and a legal one IF the military becomes involved as their oath of office requires. And if they are supported and if they find people that can be plugged in as they drag the country back under the Constitution. Kicking, screaming, or sent to re-education camps the left is talking about but with reverse purpose. Legally it will be their call.
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