Unfortunately he has done immeasurable damage that we will be living with for years! He has not been thwarted at all because there has been precious few in Washington who truly represent us! Obama and the cabal from both parties represent an all out oligarchy! Don't underestimate the damage that has been done....

From your post, you and I have an entirely different definition of "conscience"! I can't and won't attempt to speak for you! If I vote my conscience, it won't be knowingly for any evil! I will vote however for whomever does not represent evil or I won't vote at all! So! If your definitions of "evil" or "conscience" are not classical and for some reason you think that your definition is not as "liberal" as mine, then by all means vote it but don't try to judge where on the scale mine resides! You assume too much!! BTW what an who's standards do you feel you can judge my beliefs against?

A collaboration between Stone Brewery and Julie Goldenberg (cook?) called 24 Carrot Golden Ale.

http://www.stonebrewing.com/beer/ston...

Wonderful strong ale with raisins, vanilla and a lovely sweet finish. 2x 20 oz, second in the hot tub at 24 degrees outside, and I was in a good place.

Equally fantastic would be Kathy Ireland throwing herself at my feet, and equally likely. However, if first the success of lower taxes and smaller government were demonstrated, the fantastic could become a possibility.

Some lead angle is very helpful.

The only question that matters:
Will you act only using the specific powers written in the constitution and the Bill of Rights especially this:
"The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."
The federal government has no implied powers whatsoever. If it isn't written clearly as a power to the US then it isn't a federal power and is not allowed unless the states and the people overtly change the constitution with an amendment.
Virtually every government agency created in the past 103 years is unconstitutional (except those created by amendment.).

All those policies that the idiot candidates use to confuse voters are not relevant because all those policies are unconstitutional.
None of the GOP or Dem candidates will keep the oath of constitutionality. None.

Not one is worthy to be president.

As far as abortion is concerned, I really dont care what a woman does with her body until the kid is essentially born. Gay marriage is a personal decision and isnt a government matter. Eminent domain isnt really a big issue. Its there and its fought in the courts, but its not high on my list of priorities. As to sticking investors with the bill, Trump wouldnt have much effect nationally on that. Bankruptcy is a long standing thing and wont change one way or another. Just as an aside it seems more reasonable than debtors prison. Belief in some god that doesnt exist seems to be a bit stupid, so the fact its ignored by some candidates, at least relative to government policy is a POSITIVE for me. Obamacare looks worse every day now that its implemented, so I am not surprised many people would change position on it. As to taxes, I dont like them at all, but all I think would happen for the better would be to keep them from increasing.

2nd amendment was to keep us able to defeat our own government if it came to it.
A southern wall is like closing the door after the cows have left. Issue guest worker permits and cancel welfare for illegals and the problem goes away. The Iran deal is stupid, as is all of Obama's foreign policy actions. He is an idiot. Trump will be much better and will stick up for OUR interests for a change. As long as religion is kept OUT of government, I am in favor of letting people believe what they want.

There are some major issues, mostly relating to the financial running of the country. I think Trumps business background will help there. Also, he tells us when the emperor has no clothes, which is sorely needed. Hillary will just hide what she does. Trump already tells you what he thinks and I say its already sparked a lot of thinking.

Consider that he needs to get elected so he puts out statements designed to get him free publicity. If you think about what he says about immigration and terrorism and foreign relations, its not so bad. When it comes right down to it I trust he will be a lot more reasonable in actual negotiations in order to get things through our government. After all, he is a candidate now, and not privy to all the information that the "insiders" get.

I know. If I could put only the guilty in jail til the Eagles play again....

Not at all. For right now I am concerned with the primaries. Until Donald is the Republican Nominee, he's not my guy.

But let us consider the true differences between Hillary/Sanders and "The Donald".

Same:
They both support abortion.
They both support gay marriage.
They both support Kelo v New London (eminent domain).
They both don't have any problem sticking investors with the bill - Trump through his bankruptcies and Hillary/Bernie through government spending.
Both pretend a false connection to religion.
Tax policies: both favor high taxes
Obamacare: Trump was for it before it passed. He's only changed his mind since becoming a candidate.

Different:
Second Amendment. Trump would let you keep your guns.
Immigration. Trump wants to build a wall on the Southern Border. He also wants to stop un-vetted immigration.
The Iran Deal: Trump is against it.
Foreign Policy: Trump says he knows how to turn down a bad deal. All Hillary can make is bad deals.
Religious liberty: Trump says he'll preserve religious liberty. Hillary/Sanders have no such interests.

Unknowns/Questions:
Policy on Middle East: Trump has alluded to the notion of seizing the oil from ISIS.
Putin: Trump says he'll stand up to Putin. Hillary/Obama certainly haven't.

I'm looking, and really not seeing all that much difference between Hillary/Sanders and Trump on some major issues. Trump talks big and he's an outsider, but his policy statements are pretty tough to swallow given his actions.

I'm just hung up on a justice department which has
no right to the name, these days. . Hillary belongs
in jail for her actions. -- j
.

It was sarcasm, john. I need to make it more obviious ;^)

my reference was to the special access stuff which the IG
told us about yesterday. . the IRS became enemies of ours
as did those who perpetrated "fast and furious" ... without
betraying national secrets. -- j
.

Snowden was smart to go to Russia. The one place he would be safe from Obama. Obama wouldnt dare have him killed on Russian soil, whereas I think Snowden would have met an untimely death in any other country.

I agree none of the statist candidates would pardon Snowden, nor would Trump. A third party candidate with principles is the only chance that will happen. That's the only chance for peaceful return to liberty and free markets, too.

Bush showed that kind of "strength." That's how Obama got elected. Facist dictatorship is not the answer.
I do agree, America needs better than Obama
and better than Bush
and better than Clinton
and better than Bush
and better than Reagan
and better than Carter
and better than Ford
and better than Nixon
and better than Johnson
and better than Kennedy
and better than Eisenhower
and better than Truman
and better than Roosevelt
and better than Hoover
and better than Coolidge
and better than Harding
and better than Wilson

We desperately need a Thomas Jefferson.
Neither party today would let a Jefferson join, much less run.

Trump isnt swayed by political correctness, which is a good thing in my opinion. If anyone would exonerate Snowden, it would be Trump. None of the other candidates would do it. Shit, if Ford could let Nixon off the hook, we can certainly let Snowden and Manning (for that matter) off the hook.

I think that when other countries dont respect us, thats when they just act without thinking (given that we will have no response to them). When they respect us, they will think more about what actions they are proposing to take. Strength is better than weakness, as we have found out with Obama.

While I agree with the sentiment on Snowden, there is no evidence to reasonably expect any such action from Trump. More likely he would make a deal with Russia fly him out and "accidentally" lose the plane after three airliners piloted by Saudis (trained to fly in Florida) crashed into it despite the Air Force escort.

Respect. One gangster to another. Yeah, that's a reason to trust him to be king. FDR's record of 3700+ executive orders will be a footnote in comparison to HRM Donald..

Thanks for clarifying, Thor. What specific beer?

Cruz is a religious zealot who wants to take gays back out of the military, Rubio is another religious zealot who wants raped women to carry the rapists baby to term, Carson is too busy with his painting of him standing next to Jesus (well, some sort of picture anyway), Fiorina couldnt make it at HP let alone in an election, and the others just arent electable at all.

Trump tosses out his views in a bombastic way in my opinion to get free notoriety, but when you think about what he actually says a few weeks later, its not so bad. Who wants muslims around if you cant tell the difference between the violent ones and the sane ones? Figure that out before you let in thousands of syrian muslims that WE have to pay for.

Getting respect from foreign countries requires strength. He already got respect from Putin, which is more than Obama can claim.

None of the presidential candidates who are actually electable are perfect by any means. A perfect one would never get elected in this day and age.

Fantastic to me would be repeal of the 16th amendment and passage of an amendment making it clear that income taxation is, was, and always will be in violation of the basic rights of men described as follows:
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."

I have thought for a long time that the best we can have is a divided government. That way nothing gets done !! I do think, however, that Trump's take on political correctness (he ignores it and speaks his mind) is a good thing. We should all speak our minds and be true to ourselves. If elected, I hope he invites Snowden to come back without fear of prosecution. We need to know what goes on in the back rooms of our government.