I am not so sure you have to accept it, it just is. Didn't Clinton pardon the same guy he hangs out with that has the island with the supposed young girls Bill likes so much? I don't think he was even at trila yet, just indicted, and of course, is still a close "friend".

Noooo...not you Michael...:)

A friend of mine keeps buying gold and silver, then burying it around his property, and says his 357 is more insurance than the FDIC. Gotta like it...

We are currently turning a certain amount of our funds into cash. The part that is in banks isn't earning enough to matter, and the suspicion that the banks can now take money from private accounts has us spooked. We haven't yet decided what to do with the several options open to us, we will resolve it before the month is out.

I understood the "Beating & preaching" part. I didn't understand the "idea alone" sentence. Got it now. thanks for clarification.

By the way, we sold our San Diego condo in 2005. We didn't mind the 6% because we made so damn much money on it that we could easly afford it. Not so much a few years later. Real estate has always been kind to us, but I don't attribute it to any perspicacity on our part.

You've lost me.
I don't understand your comment.
It might be that a rusty channel in this ancient brain has frozen up.

Yes. As many frothing and bubbling brains filled with I'll get mine and to hell with everyone else, as there are out there, the wonder is that anything positive gets accomplished at all. It seems to me that in the past, this type of person was so far in the minority so that doing the immoral thing was mostly anathema and as a result the moochers were to an extent kept in check. This morality for the most part, no longer exists. The roller coaster has gone off the tracks so hang on tight and keep a tight ass.

My understanding is to accept a pardon you have to admit guilt. She would never do that. The Clintons and Obamas do hate each other. I wonder what Barry will do???

Yep, that is the Great Mystery. I heard some start muttering that is why shes started being nice to his Obamaness. Can't hurt to try to butter him up, but in the end..maybe he will pardon her?

I really don't get the Hillary thing. Why is more investigation needed? Put the cuffs on her already. She can be convicted with the stuff that has been released to the press. The FBI must have even more. She needs to go down.

Great points. I here there are a lot of loans out there that might start going bad. Just the crisis the Feds need.

That is the funny part, blame seems to be this nebulous thing with no substance to it. Look at HillaryBeast: broken laws all over the place, and nothing. Yet an average Joe would be in jail already. The Obamanation just does whatever he wants, and if he can't get it through the system, just goes around it and performs self legislation. And lets not forget the Piglet Pelosi "You aren't going home until you pass Obamanation Care" hijacking. Yet no one ever blames them for the fact some people have a 1000% increase in their insurance premiums, when it was proven they all lied, made things up and basically screwed us all. And it still isn't enough to get it repealed. That one issue alone is proof that the sheeple just bitch and moan and then vote for the idiot again hoping they will be better on round 2. Dumb asses, every one of them...

I just hope Obama gets the blame for what is going to happen.

It is funny how that works, isn't it?

yes, we got caught up in that, we are still trying to sell our large property to scale down, and because everyone changes the value of our property (I have seen it at 500K, and all the way down to 280K on zillow) we have been trying to sell it ourselves. We did the MLS yourself thing (400.00) and was told by a person who has a Realtor girlfriend, no Realtor would send anyone to use because we refused to give them 6% (about 13K each) to them for just sending someone. We offered a 1% fee to any Realtor who did and they raised their noses. There is way too much manipulation and blackmail in the system, too few people have too much control so there is almost no free market. The result will be more and more money siphoned off to feed their addictions.

Indeed Herb, I think Rand recognized there is almost a distinct seperation of people: the builders, and the destroyers. I see a lot of corrolation in how there is a fundamental financial group, and a huge herd of people who have created mystical money instruments that led to a bigger and bigger circle of artificial non-existent things traded for value. There are so many variations on commodities now it is no longer just pork belly futures, but bizzare bets on prices 3-6 months out wrapped up into instruments that then get traded over and over again. I lost track of all the artificial stuff years ago and gave up ever understanding it. Yet trading in these artificial instruments make and break millionaires every day.

It's like humanity is manipulating itself back into curious apes. So greedy that their greed in the long run ( and maybe the shorter run) will destroy them. Rand had an exalted view of mankind, illustrating what it could and should be. She also showed how the dark side cannot tolerate the achievers and by tearing them down, inevitably destroy themselves.

This is not the free market working. Demand has not fallen. It is deliberate manipulation by the big nationalized oil producers, especially Saudi Aramco, who want to bankrupt our producers so we'll have to buy from them. (Most of the top 20 oil companies in the world are governments.)

Beware if the federal government offers bailouts. I'm sure they would like to nationalize the oil fields and shut them down to please the eco-nuts and freeze us.