Flat tax is all income tax at one rate. It will last ass long as it lasts. There is nothing to stop it from going up, down, or on a step system with side benefits for some and not for others. The reason for a flat tax is to get the value added disguised as an end user tax in place.

Fair Tax was the original program which required as it's first step repeal of income tax.As I recall it replaced all payroll taxes. somewhere around 30% one time end user sales tax at the point of sale divided between federal and local governments.

It wouldn't apply now anyway but the idea was the consumer controlled taxes and budgets by what the consumer chose to spend. Income tax is the opposite fascist in nature and it's purpose is control of citizens.

The main point is without repeal of one you end up with two and the chances of the percent mentioned not rising are somewhere betwen nil and nought. a chance.

So figure your income tax bill plus a 16% corporate or business tax bill not limited to corporations plus the add on from the new one from every corporation involved in the production of any good or service. You see that limit?

I didn't see either of those two requirements.

Ergo sum it's a Hillary enhanced Pelosi VAT endorsed by two former Libertarians???????

I don't understand how it does not raise taxes. What does it replace? It's an added tax if it does not replace something. And you seem to be one of the few that only the consumer pays business tax as an overhead expense it's part of the sale price.

So for the moment the question should be what does it replace? And if it replaces income tax then where's the part about the amendment to repeal. If it does not do that they will have two taxes the original went from 7% to 77% in eleven years. Do you trust the government that much?

It won't effect me I won't be contributing nor buying anything in the USA..I''ll just be taking...except for income tax can't get around that one. Amazon went international.

True and I have zero common interest with progressivism.

Rand and Cruz both came out in favor of a 16% tax on corporations at point of sale of whatever they do. The rest is 'do the math.' If every corporation pays 16% each step of the way it's either collected as a tax and turned in or it's added to their quote unquote business tax" either way it's an expense paid by somebody. Their next in the chain buyer perhaps? Either way it's passed on down as increasing overhead in the Cost of Government column.

Either the seller corporation or the buyer corporation has to pony up the 16% each step of the way. They recoup the cost by increasing their price. Add all those together it's a value subtracted tax as there is no increase in value only in cost the item or service still has same value...only the cost goes up. Each step of the way.

Think of the wooden chair you sit in at yiour wooden table looking at your wooden kitchen cabinets. How many corporations are involved from tree to what supports your butt? who pays. The end consumer. Businesses only collect taxes and at some point turn them in but someone has to pay those taxes. Who cannot pass on the cost of collecting all those sixteen percents? Or was it to be divided up between all those corporations? That's the guy that's sitting in the chair going but but but but....

It's a VAT no matter if it did replace Income Tax-- and that takes an amendment, or an act of congress lowering the tax rate -- it's still a Pelosi favorite. What chance you rate doing away with income tax while their collecting both.

No document just their rhetoric put to the test and taking that they say thinking it through. and it doesn't have ground truth. Cruz and Rand gave you three choices. Two involved higher taxation and one involved voting against them.

It's a perversion of the end user consumption tax with no safeguards in sight.

trouble is he's a member of the Government Party and that makes him automatically suspect especially his stance on one version of the Pelosi VAT tax. Different intials same outcome. Higher prices for the consumer / taxpayer. On the other hand much as I dislike any choices left of center he's by far more preferable than the others offered. Too bad it's not an open election.

i also agree on shutting down but disagree left wing of the left is given a pass while it applies only to the right wing of the left. For the Government party Rino and Dino alike it's just an act and one poorly enacted by the enablers of the left.