Unless the group accepts a behavior, it cannot be done. Collectivism at its best. These homeowners associations are often the same type of idiots who vote for school levies. They are the kind of people who are the targets of people like Obama, and Clinton's UN driven organizatons for global centralization of authority. It starts in our neighborhoods with these HOA groups. I would never join one, and they wouldn't like me much. The whips make too much noise.
There is a neighborhood near my house, but they can't do a damn thing about it. I've told them many, many, many times that if they don't like it, they can move.
On the other hand, you could have purchased that land so that you wouldn't have had neighbors and wouldn't have had to change any habits. Now you do. As a civilized person with good manners, you will change to accommodate the new situation.
So true. It's always amazing to me that people sign these things without reading or understanding them - or worse, with the belief that they can just violate them with impunity, just because they want to live there. If you can't follow the rules, then don't live there. On the other hand, it also is disturbing that there are HOA boards that decide to make up the rules as they go just because someone does something that they find objectionable. And since most other residents don't want to "rock the boat," they just stay out of the conflict.
When you purchase a piece of property which is governed by a HOA you are contractually agreeing to abide by the deeds covenants and restrictions. If the board has a lot of flexibility in interpreting those covenants, you are screwed if you don’t like what they do and you don’t take time to be on the board. Bottom line though...YOU AGREED TO IT! Quit whining. If you don’t like it get on the board and change things. Now some boards control the board membership and it can be difficult to get on and if you do get there you are but one voice...but you can make life miserable for the board if you are willing to take the time. Decide if it is a ""hill you want to die on" and fight them...or just put up with it, because again.....YOU AGREED TO IT, WHAT IS IT ABOUT A CONTRACT YOU DIDN’T UNDERSTAND. My HOA messed with me and I made their life a living hell, they elected to stop messing with me after that now 15 years later. There are still things I don’t like but I put up with them. Everything in life is a choice.
There are many times where I have to undress on my front porch after I get caught riding motorcycles in thunderstorms. I don't track all those wet cloths into the house. There weren't homes across the street, until recently. It irks me that people move around me then expect me to change my habits, start complaining about naked hot tubing, all the bullwhip stuff, all the guns, and the motorcycle habits. It reminds me of the snoopy homeowners association. Certainly not for me.
My first reaction is with you overman. HOAs always favor more control not less. But what if I pushed envelope. What if people were constantly having sex where it could be viewed from in front of the house or a large screen TV that was clearly visible from the street that was displaying porn 24/7. I think this seems innocuous however, and the association is behaving in a mean-spirited and petty way.
I prefer a HOA to a local government doing whatever they choose. At least the HOA is represented by me and my neighbors (or at least will be as soon as the rest of the lots are sold).
Regardless of your personal assessment of the veracity of the organization, this is something inside the house. Last I understood, unless there's something specific in the HOA rules, this should be allowed.
I feel that way about the pink ribbon campaign. These organizations can write-off legally 90% of their donations for business expenses if they want. Seems like a scam to me. I certainly tired of looking at all the products on the shelves that support the ‘pink’. Some HOA have rules about advertising businesses. Perhaps they just saw this ribbon as just another peddler service. I know I would have. Technically, it may be in her home but it’s her neighbor’s who have to view it from the street.
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There is a neighborhood near my house, but they can't do a damn thing about it. I've told them many, many, many times that if they don't like it, they can move.
On the other hand, it also is disturbing that there are HOA boards that decide to make up the rules as they go just because someone does something that they find objectionable. And since most other residents don't want to "rock the boat," they just stay out of the conflict.
I think this seems innocuous however, and the association is behaving in a mean-spirited and petty way.
Some HOA have rules about advertising businesses. Perhaps they just saw this ribbon as just another peddler service. I know I would have. Technically, it may be in her home but it’s her neighbor’s who have to view it from the street.