Good for you John. I do too, I just gave up on it ever being accurately represented.

Liberty, I think you are relying on assuming the people dong the counting WANT to make sure it is all done right. I have seen too many cases of "recount math" going in favor of the establishment candidate, to believe that is true, "Hanging chads" was just the start. I think honest elections were abandoned 50 years ago. Look at Oregon for a great example of how you can control the vote: vote by mail, and never be able to witness the count. It ends up being whatever they want. They don't even care if they get found out now, they have all adopted the "screw you" defense (look at the IRS/Hillary State Dept issues for proof). When the powerful can just say "we don't care, and then blatantly break the law, and the guarantors of our freedom just splutter and bitch, then they have won.

Chucky, I think the more relevant part is that a friggin ancient woman who has lived here all her life can't get set up to vote, but the implication is that a huge number of people who should never vote can. Along with a cast of thousands, maybe more, who don't even exist. My wife already posted a Dumbocrap person in a Midwest state who was photographed at a cemetery walking down rows writing names. Unless she is a necrophiliac looking for a fix, she was just adding to the voter rolls. Things you never see in mainstream media....

Doc, that may be a small part of it, but the much greater picture is just to manipulate the overall "vote". They have taken the Chicago concept and pout it on huge steroids, and have been successful. Specific parties have staked their corrupt claims, but the Dumbocraps have done a much better job at it. That is why I believe that Bernie will be the next president. I just hope the fact he can't get any of his crazy crap through the legislative side may hold him back. Until the sheeple vote those loons back in and we get Felony Pelosi selling us all down the river again.

Oh, man, what a can of worms to open. Look at the IRS (who give the finger successfully to the House), and the ignorant idiots IN the House who let them, or make excuses (Like the HillaryBeast "VRWC") saying it is a witch hunt. Their complete lack of ethics, honor and honesty is appalling, and it is at every level. The entire system has now been set up to be rigged by whatever group controls it, Oregon is a perfect example, they will never see a non Dumbocrap in any position, even the damn Governor who is a criminal, gets re-elected, and before they can send him packing, he resigns and we have a 4 year stand in who was never elected, who will be re-elected 2 more terms.

I am not so sure your statement is accurate. Look at all the abuses of all the other crazy forms of ID, as well as the total lack of control over the information needed to prove identity. Just as they steal your stuff to steal your money and credit, they will manipulate the info and steal your National identity as well. They can't manage it locally, I am sure the odds go down as we go up in the Imperial levels of control. Stop giving out Drivers Licenes to every special interest group that shouldn't have them in the first place, and we could use them just fine. The issue is whatever they want to manipulate the voter base with, they will, with impunity. The fact that a real citizen may not be able to make up the crap they want to hear, is irrelevant to them, they don't need or want her vote. It goes back to the whole basic disregard for the vote in the first place. Look at the abuses documented in video in Ohio last Pres election, where the machine was rigged for Dumbocrap only, you couldn't get it to take a Republicrat vote, yet no one ever investigated, no one went to jail, no one cared. That was due to the fact the ones who are responsible for the security are the ones doing it.

I have not found it limited to any particular species. Lots of businesses have gone down that road, and even when you call or write, you are either ignored or fed BS that doesn't work. Then you get billed....

" the fog of bureaucracy"
Boy, my wife and I are finding this problem everywhere...seems no one knows anything but even if one should run into a competent person in one of our bureaucracies or insurance companies there is no guarantee that their up to speed with the latest perversion of the laws or regulations.

If everyone was an Objectivist or Libertarian and honest, my proposal wouldn't be necessary. Until then...

I will fight that. I don't need some state-issued ID in order to exist. America has done without a national ID all this time. That way lies tyranny.

as for me, I do not care how difficult it is to get an ID
which will keep my voting privilege active. . I will do it
if it requires that I drive to yosemite and back to tennessee.
if there are people who find this a problem, it's something
which we should fix. . but in the meantime, I will fight
to maintain my voting privilege. . tooth and nail. -- j
.

And eventually we would get the same rigged "lit-
eracy" tests that existed in the lily-white South to
prevent blacks from voting.

I understood from way back (in fact, I remember
reading it in an encyclopedia), that in America a
person's legal name is the name by which he is
generally known. (I assume that this was done to
prevent the kind of "writ of error" issue which exists, or used to, in Britain, where a whole in-
dictment could be dismissed or overturned on
such a technicality). As to keeping one person
from voting several times in the same election,
I guess that could be prevented by checking the
person's address. So could two different addres-
ses result in two different votes? Maybe, but
perhaps the state government could check out
duplicate addresses or duplicate names a few
weeks before the election.

Well I'll be darned! I'm glad a judge had a voting problem because, unjustly, people will pay more attention to her - down by her problem being top tv news story that night.

It's a slightly different problem than the woman who couldn't register, though.

In either case it's a pretty stupid problem to have!

This article shows the need for a National ID which can be used to verify voters and recipients of govt benefits.

I wonder what the conversation contents were with the BMV worker?
Some people can't help but mention why they are getting something. Maybe it was mentioned that she wanted this so she could vote, (even further what party).

So that leaves the question that if such a subject was brought up, did the BMV worker knowingly not mention the form, (for whatever reason politically or agenda based) ?

I just have to wonder, because I know there are those zealots out there.

Remember that lady whom worked for a government agency and abused her authority by looking at the personal information of "Joe the Plumber", when he confronted Obuma? Of course she was let go, but then later rehired by the same agency (if my memory is correct), (Hummm).

Freedomforall:
I doubt if that would work. I have advocated for years that voters should take the same test as those applying for citizenship. At least then, they will have some inkling of how the country works. And while we're at it, I also propose that those who run for office should be tested on their knowledge of the Constitution before they are even allowed to run.

Life Formula #34:
Government In.
Common Sense Out.

The real reason for objection to voter ID has nothing to do with the elderly, or the poor. The fact is that a whole host of takers/sheeple have warrants outstanding, and are nervous about showing ID anywhere there might be law enforcement presence. When you're trying to enlist as many of those who long for more free stuff to vote socialist, certainly you're going to try to discourage "outing" them at the polling place. Ironically, most of those people are probably legal voters, so fraud isn't the driving force.

The maiden name issue is a big deal in Texas. http://www.npr.org/2013/10/30/2418918...

Just to be clear... in NC she can vote without a required photo ID... by voting by mail. Assuming of course she is registered to vote which does also require some ID. IF we are not going to verify voters when they actually cast a vote then we should get rid of the Federal and State Constitutional requirements for voting including being a citizen, being at least 18, being a resident (State and Local elections), not being incarcerated, not being a felon (in some States), and being alive. Anyone who presents themselves to vote can vote, no checking of any kind (which of course would be disenfranchising), anyone can vote anywhere, anytime, as often as they like (checking to see if they have already voted would also be disenfranchising.) That NC bureaucrats, who despise the Republican majority in the legislature for among other reasons no lavish compensation increases, cannot figure out how to issue free photo IDs is not surprising.

I work with addicts in a 12 step program. Although their predilection to use may persist, they can recover to the point that they can abstain and live relatively normal lives. Many of the "sheeple" can't even get to Step 1 by realizing that they are in an untenable thought process.

So, they found one poster child for their cause. As stated in the article, there is a process to resolve the issue. End of story.
I'd rather that than have illegals bussed in to vote, or as happened (happens?) in Chicago, dead folks casting ballots from the grave. No system is perfect, but voter ID gets us closer.