That was my point. You think the con-gress will oppose Trump's bad (statist, monarchist, anti-liberty, anti-free market) ideas? They didn't oppose O-racist; they won't oppose Trump either.
It's delusional to believe that Trump will be pro- liberty when his entire life he has been statist.

Obamacare was passed when Obama had both houses of congress. They passed it and he signed it.

+1

Welcome to the "zombie movie". :-)

How bad was Obama for only 4 years? Then it became 8. Trump is cronyism incarnate. Stop it? He embodies it.
Pres couldn't pass anything the con-gress didn't bring ? Ever heard of Obamacare?
Abandon the GOP. It's your only hope short of non-peaceful action.

Politics IS sales and marketing today. Hildebeast is the master salesman. She changes her tune constantly in response to the changing weathervane of politics. Why arent you dumping on her instead of wasting time dumping on Trump and guaranteeing her win as president? She will be TERRIBLE for us all.

Your justification for Trump is based on your trust that the master salesman is telling you the truth. He wants people that put so much blind faith in his words and ignore his actions.

What's next for some Trump's supporters? Hats, buttons, jackets...boots? Will they initiate force against those that are critical of Trump?

The group think is strong with this one....

FFA is right.

We will c what happens. If the Trump haters win, we get Hillary and the economy crashes. Cruz cant stand up to Hillary- he would be crushed with his religious zealotry. Rubio is a lightweight new kid on the block and would never get elected.

Hillary is the one who tells it like her handlers tell her to. In addition, she is beholden to Goldman and wall street, seeing as though they gave her so much money.

How bad can Trump really be for 4 years? He would blast open a lot of cronyism and bring it to the light of day. He cant actually pass any laws that the congress doesnt bring to him. He would hire better advisors and amployees than any of the others would also.

Anti establishment is fine. Manic monarchist is not.
trump "tells it" the way he thinks you want to hear it, just like almost all the political class.
Trump is the best thing to happen to the divine right of kings in ages.
Emotions getting the best of us?
Heal thyself.

Sasse was not establishment. He is now. The "third party" ploy spoken of more and more has nothing to do with electing a GOP candidate. It is intended, if it happens, to fragment the GOP and elect the Hildebeast.

Well, at least he doesnt take campaign contributions like Hildebeast. I worry when Goldman gives her so much money. They expect a LOT back, and it would be at our expense.

Tyrants dont often build big and successful businesses, though. Trump has had to rely on cooperation and picking good people to work with. Thats what we need as an administrator to run the government.

"WE can make USA great again. Government cant do that at all."

You got that one right! :-)

I think he thinks we are all stupid and we probably are. He has said not to worry about the "candidate Donald" because he will be a different "nominee Donald" and even a different "President Donald". In other words, he tells it like it is even when it isn't. He has all the character traits of being a tyrant but if Congress and The Supreme Court does their jobs, we can survive, and maybe even thrive with a leader like that. The trouble is that checks and balances have not worked too well lately because of cronyism.

Its incredible. I noticed that she was adopting Sander's lines last night (seeing as though they are really the same). Her handlers are smart, and they just give her the lines to spout. As to the 75% wins, those are the blacks who just loved Obama and she tells them she will continue the Obama legacy. I think this might be the last real election, and I am voting for Trump this time. He tells it like it is at least, and isnt part of the establishment that takes campaign moneys from Goldman (like Hillary). He actually has to be good at hiring people to be successful in business (unlike the other GOP people who never hired anyone that had to produce). We need an administrator as president for a change, not some sort of king that promises what they cant deliver. If Trump just gets government out of the way, WE can make USA great again. Government cant do that at all.

What do the Hillary supporters think Goldman is giving her $200k per speech for? They must expect favors at our expense.

I hate to say this, but that's true. Sanders may be a neo-liberal socialist, but he's not lying about being a neo-liberal socialist. As sad as it seems, if he won at least if he said something you could take it to the (failed and state-controlled) bank...

What I really REALLY don't get is how the hell Hellary can take state after state - some at over 75% of the vote. I was watching the brouhaha last night, and screaming at the TV "Are these f***ing democrats blind and dumb and stupid? WTF is wrong with you for voting a known criminal, someone who is known to lie back to back, who puts on fake accents to sound like she's from somewhere, and cal legalese her way out of the crimes she has committed??!! Is your memory THAT bad you can't remember she crap she pulled when her husband was in the WH? ARRGHHHH!!!!!"

Ya know... Ayn was right. The moochers, looters, liberals, etc. hate themselves so bad they want to drag the rest of the world down in flames with them...

They want to make sure the ones who will keep the vanilla status quo dual-dubbed monoparty. The media want candidates (and eventually, a CiC) that will generate news stories (which is why Hellary is their darling), regardless of (or especially if) they do a lackadaisical, or better, deplorable job... or even better (for them) make the nation a shithole fill of news stories to boost their revenue.

Otherwise we would have a Rand Paul VS Bernie Sanders Primary - both qualified from their own sides, both very dedicated to their specific agenda, but far far too bland and businesslike to be a media sensation, so they get the axe...

HOW do you think we ended up with the criminal bimbo VS the loud, non-PC hairpiece? The networks are drooling all over themselves... because THEY win.

Rubio has completely come unhinged, he said the word 'con man' something like 50 times in a 5 minute rant on Fox News last night.

So who is the Con Man? The guy that builds high rises, employing thousands of people and selling high quality condos to people that can afford them? Or the first-term Senator that has been on the campaign trail for at least a year, not representing his constituents, and fleecing the taxpayers for his salary the whole time?

The good thing about Trump is that he tells it like it is, he is not politically correct, he actually has run successful businesses (none of the others have), and knows how to hire good people who know what they are doing (unlike Obama who just looks at the skin color and hires based on that). What else do we really want in an administrator, which is what the president is. He doesnt write the laws, and can only veto what the congress passes. And he can inspire us all to be ourselves, which he does. He has my vote.

I'm voting for the last man standing. Call it what you may, I'm tired of career politicians and want anybody but a career politician to shake things up and remind the good old boys we the people don't want you to get too comfortable for too long. Every time I see a super pack ad with negative comments of desperation, it makes me incline in the opposite direction of their intention of the ad. So for the Repubs- last man standing. For the Dems- not an option. Both choices are unacceptable between a socialist/communist who has done nothing but whine about America and the coronation of life long career politician with tons of baggage who believes it's her turn to wear the crown.

Trump will be the best thing that happened in USA politics in a long time. The trump haters out there are all over this forum, but they are letting their emotions get the best of them. He tells it like it is, which should be a good thing. But he is anti establishment, which scares a lot of people.

Hillary is a lying, manipulative, and evil person. She is a chameleon who changes her tune in response to the weathervane of political life. SHE is the representative of the new fascism, not Trump. How people could vote for that woman is beyond me. She is the same as Sanders in philosophy, but at least HE is honest. She is a liar.

Trump's support is that he IS an outsider and will blow apart the standard ways of doing things in washinton. He tells the truth and speaks his mind, which we all SHOULD do. He also says what we are thinking in many ways. And he is politically incorrect, which we ALL need. He has my vote. The others are either standard politicians or really evil people like Hildebeast and Sanders.

"But if the Republican Party becomes the party of David Duke and Donald Trump, I'm out, and I think lots and lots and lots of people are out." --Sen. Ben Sasse
I wonder if lots and lots of Republicans plus some Democrats could equal a majority. I think so.

Trump is an illustration of the New Fascism Rule by Consensus lecture posted here last week.
https://ari.aynrand.org/issues/govern...
People see Trump and say "Goodness he sounds fascist. He scares the bejesus out me. We need a good moderate who will look out for to all groups' views." I say illustration because if limited gov't and respect for individual rights had strong structures enforcing them, Trump wouldn't be so scary. We wouldn't feel the desperate need for someone who represents everyone's interests. It would be understood that people represent their own interests, and the president just runs the executive branch.

My thought is Trump cannot win. The question is what alternative to people run to. The obvious choice is Hillary Clinton, who I believe is a good person and "good moderate who will look out for all groups' views." But imagine if there were another viable choice, if a bunch of mainstream politicians supported Gary Johnson. It's still an extreme longshot, but a libertarian movement is a possibility.

People inside the beltway always tell you how to vote, and if you don't follow directions they fix the results.
Sessions is naive or can't think rationally regarding Trump.
Sasse appears to understand the danger of electing Trump.

I don't want anyone to tell me what to do either but the article presented multiple views, the essence being that what these people will say to get elected does not reflect on what they will do once in office. This is the core of the problem to me. I would rather select a candidate based on their fundamental beliefs and not any specifics of what they say they will do. First, not being privy to all the information, they are dealing with "facts" that are public but not necessarily true or complete. Second, they are supposed to sell their ideas to other governmental branches for approval, budgeting and a ruling on the lawfulness of the acts in accordance with our national principles. Their pronouncements of what THEY will do implies they will have absolute control and some even believe they have it.
Our founders devised a system based on separation of powers which has been eroded to a scary degree. States rights are almost non-existent. Congress is vilified and bypassed. The Supreme Court stands alone but is in danger of being turned to the left. One conservative justice is to be replaced now and in the next few years there will be three liberal justices to be replaced so a huge swing can occur based on the principles of the next President. I have no idea what Trump would do but I have a good idea on Clinton and total assuredness on Sanders' leanings.
My first Presidential vote (had to be 21) was for Barry Goldwater and he was the last candidate I was really "for". I was surprised by Reagan, disappointed by George H W Bush and have hardly been able to live with the rest. Now, I don't know if I even want to vote, even to vote against the other. If a serious challenge could be mounted by a third party candidate and cause the election to be decided in the house of Representatives could be our best bet.