Location in Arizona for the Gulch?

Posted by tkstone 9 years, 1 month ago to Government
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I know very little about the politics in Arizona, but this is an encouraging sign.


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  • Posted by Herb7734 9 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    I don't know if you've been to Arizona, but there are some places where you could be a few feet from someone and not see them due to the weird curves and stone configurations. However, all the old hideeholes have been pretty much explored and mapped.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 9 years, 1 month ago
    One politician a Gulch does not make. However, certainly worth looking into.
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 9 years, 1 month ago
    A real Gulch would have to hide disappearing people like in Atlas Shrugged.
    Otherwise, control freak "public servants" would never leave such a place alone.
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  • Posted by fivedollargold 9 years, 1 month ago
    Funny you should mention this. Fivedollargold sent his marital spouse and daughter to Arizona last weekend to prospect for Gulch sites. They are presently scouring the Sedona area.
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  • Posted by Esceptico 9 years, 1 month ago
    Yes, an encouraging sign and the current governor is doing a great job --- given what he has to work against to bring any sort of liberty to the surface. I first came to Arizona in 1961, lived a few other places after that, returned in 1990 and lived here until now. The changes between 1961 and now are things only us old people can appreciate.
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  • Posted by jimslag 9 years, 1 month ago
    1 person is a start but I think the Great State of Arizona still has a long way to go for it to be considered a Gulch. I like his credentials, however a book with Jeb has it's drawback, sort of like no matter how many atta boys you have, one aw Sh*t overrides everything. I lived in Phoenix back in 2002-2003 but missed Denver and moved back there. I was not into politics at that time, so I didn't really pay attention to who was what back then, I was more concerned about earning a living and paying bills. I like that a Republican is Governor and he put this guy into the State SC but I remember the Phoenix area as being more liberal, so it is sort of like here in New Mexico. While the majority of the state is rural and red, the major cities are blue or purple and therefore, it is usually Democratic in stature. My Representative is a D but only because our District has Santa Fe which has more people than the rest of the District who voted for his R opponent. His off ice is in Santa Fe, which is 4 hours from where I live. So goes the Western states where population centers control the whole state's politics. Phoenix and Tucson have more people than the rest of the state.
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  • Posted by mia767ca 9 years, 1 month ago
    sign me up...but it will be a two-front battle...the drug cartel to the south and the Federal fascists in washington...
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  • Posted by freedomforall 9 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    IF you read Unintended Consequences by John Ross you will recall one of the characters was a lawyer who left the US to be a safari guide in Africa. he was gone for about 10-15 years iirc. When he returned he was shocked at how much things had changed.
    That was how I felt when I returned to live in Phoenix in 1999 (after living elsewhere 1991-1998.)
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  • Posted by freedomforall 9 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    That might have been true in 1990, but by 1999 the moderates were in control of the Phoenix area. I think Forbes has a new, different definition of "conservative."
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  • Posted by Animal 9 years, 1 month ago
    Arizona has some good points, but Mrs. Animal and I will stick to our own personal Gulch in Alaska.
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  • Posted by freedomforall 9 years, 1 month ago
    I met Clint in Phoenix in 2002. He was looking for a house and signed a contract to buy mine. I think my Ayn Rand library may have been a factor in the favorable impression we made.
    Definitely an encouraging sign for Arizona.
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