Dr. Ben and The Donald?

Posted by johnpe1 9 years, 1 month ago to Politics
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politics makes for odd combinations, yes? -- j
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  • Posted by conscious1978 9 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    Capitalists are admirable; but Trump is a Pragmatist. I don't buy his 'reality show' rhetoric, and he hasn't demonstrated he has more than a soundbite grasp of many important issues.

    Candidates won't be 'perfect'. However, he has proven he will use political influence and power in disregard of others rights.
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  • Posted by conscious1978 9 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    Lost, on some that demonstrate blindness to the significance of Trump's history and Pragmatism, are the individuals that don't think Trump will protect our current rights.

    The 'group think' which scoops all individuals that are against the 'reality show' host into a "Trump haters" bucket is the same rationale used by others driven by 'identity politics'.

    Many of those defending Trump would never tolerate what they forgive him in another candidate.
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  • Posted by Esceptico 9 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    I do not understand your comment. I quoted an article and I do not read it as tarring everyone with a hate brush, but perhaps I missed something.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    Except for one small minor detail thumbs up. That is tarring everyone with a hate brush. I expected that from Term2 who is more to be pitied than anything and don't accept it from anyone.

    I find the only hate mongers are those stopping by on a drive by and they don't last.

    But consider his words and line that up with the proper political organization...It's national socialism. Consider his past and his present rhetoric again national socialism for he is in fact a Republican therefore a socialist ill virtue of their stance with the democrats as those who want government over citizens by any means possible and corporatist no doubt there and has evidenced the requisite fascist tendencies.

    I don't use the definitions of the left and fall into their trap.

    Left is government over citizens, it is all socialist and socialism is all fascist in nature meaning control citizens by any means needed.

    He is further left than regular Republicans and RINOs no doubt there. They are the right wing of the left. Trump therefore gets close to the unmentionable Ominous Parallel comparison and that particular group along with RINO DINOS are not the center except of their own bailwick

    Center Constitution

    Center of the left RINOS -DINOS

    Center of the extreme left National and International Socialism

    A much more useful and accurate way of populating the left with everyone and every political belief in it's proper place.

    to complete the picture the right would be what Libertarians? Perhaps but those who believe in Citizens controlling government as citizens are supposed to be the divine power meaning ability to divine what is proper. That was the theory when the nation was founded. The extreme right are anarchists and forms of hermits.

    Hate...that's for the left .....Pity would be accurate when we bother to categorize at all. Perhaps despicable in extreme cases.

    Your definitions have been faulty for a hundred years.....I reject them ...
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  • Posted by Esceptico 9 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    Good points all. When "free speech" is limited to specified locations at universities and to even murmur something at which some one may take offense is a major issue, it is so far from what I was taught that "sticks and stones may break my bones, but names will never hurt me."
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  • Posted by johnpe1 9 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    and DT did not get his billions by the overnight electronic
    method. . he dug and pushed and worked for it. -- j
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  • Posted by johnpe1 9 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    I believe that many here see DT as a potential fascist
    by taking him literally and failing to see the negotiator
    in him in action. . he routinely exaggerates just like I would
    in selling my seven-hundred-dollar boat -- I'll take two thousand
    for it! . what's your counter-offer? -- j
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  • Posted by term2 9 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    I would rather our president and putin respected and trusted each other, especially since both have their fingers on the "end of the world" button. I have seem some documentaries showing how close we came to nuclear disaster during the cold (uncommunicative and distrusting) war
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  • Posted by term2 9 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    If you settle for the best available, you will get the best of what is available.
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  • Posted by term2 9 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    FUNNY. Its the haters on this forum and in the general populace who are into the hate speech. Disappointing that they are trying to maintain the establishments evils.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 9 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    Oy!
    Let's agree to disagree. You are disturbing my retirement tranquility.
    Let's discuss something inconsequential for a change -- like a GEICO commercial.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 9 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    Micheael, you are certainly a gadfly. You are driving me nuts fending you off. You should open a salon called "Brain Calisthenics."
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  • Posted by gwilhelm56 9 years, 1 month ago
    Trump may not be a Textbook Conservative, but he IS A CAPITALIST... Something that this Country needs a REMINDER that that is Not necessarily a BAD THING!!! Some in here apparently need such a LESSON!!!!
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    Which means you should be supporting the 46% who are voting no confidence and none of the above and building up that group - and keeping your values intact.

    It all depends on your won individual values.In the end you are the only one who has to face the mirror.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    It appears I'll have to do this again. Trump is a RINO Republican at best. They are the right wing of the left by having joined the DINO's in a coalition of those who believe, primarily, in government control of citizens by any means. One need only look at the closed elections, disenfranchisement of 46% of eligible voters, and 85% of the Senate voting on Dec 31st against civil rights and the bill of rights. So let's just say he is the right wing of the left's poster child candidate and their are Ominous Parallels to ....deleted by complaint..... just as the rest of the left's candidates exhibit ominous parallels to the other well known fascist leaders. The amount of deaths is relative. LBJ takes credit for 60,000 of his own soldiers. Rachel Carson hundreds of thousands through starvation. ....BUT .....the body politic wanting change can see no further nor find their way back to the center than baby steps slowing down the move to the left. He is a socialist corporatist with fascist tendencies well exhibited. Draw your own conclusions.
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  • Posted by term2 9 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    Trump opened the politically correct shackles on all of us. I think no matter what happens, he has opened Pandora's box (and so has Sanders somewhat- he speaks his mind also), and people will be more willing to say what they are thinking without fear of being labeled politically incorrect. I think bringing issues out in the open will lead to good things. I would rather people who think negroes are biologically inferior and subhuman just come out with it, so not only do we know where they stand, but THEY also get to hear what they are saying and have a chance to think about it.
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  • Posted by Esceptico 9 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    I 100% agree with you on all points here. I, too, am surprised and disappointed that some in the Gulch are so emotionally unhappy with Trump and seek a sort of utopia in politics which does not, and most likely will not, exist. Snowden is a hero, same with Wikileaks and Manning. Whistleblowers always suffer most for what they do to help those of us who are ignorant of what the government is secretly doing against us. Viva Trump.
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  • Posted by term2 9 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    Damn, you are right on about the haters of Trump. There are quite a few of them on this forum too (which amazes and disappoints me). The best thing that Trump could do is just bring everything to the light of day. We are TIRED of politicians leading us down some hidden agenda path that we find out about later (like Hillary, or even Bush for that matter). At least Sanders is pretty much right out there with his ideas so we can evaluate (and dismiss) them. I dont like the establishment, which has been screwing me over for a long time now. If I were president, I would bring back and exonerate Snowden, free Manning, exonerate the Wikileaks dude, and hope that there are many more that will come forth and expose whats going on behind the scenes. Thanks for posting the above- its needed on this forum.

    As an aside, I doubt a real John Galt would even WANT to be president right now where government is based on taking from some and giving to others.
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