Why was no one prosecuted for contributing to the financial crisis?

Posted by freedomforall 9 years, 1 month ago to Business
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The FCIC was set up to investigate the causes of the financial crisis. The commission didn’t have either the authority or the resources to do a criminal investigation. But as the documents show, a number of matters—involving Goldman Sachs, AIG, Merrill Lynch, Citigroup and Fannie Mae—were referred to the Attorney General. No criminal prosecutions arose from any of those. (In Citigroup’s case, the SEC settled with the company and two executives in the fall of 2010 for a paltry sum. The Commission drily noted, “The SEC’s civil settlement ignores the executives running the company and Board members responsible for overseeing it. Indeed, by naming only the CFO and the head of investor relations, the SEC appears to pin blame on those who speak a company’s line, rather than those responsible for writing it.”)


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  • Posted by plusaf 9 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    I agree, but please keep in mind that the 'banksters' didn't just bundle all the toxic loans together... they salted them into packages for resale to buyers of the paper who had assumed that the Good Loans would cover enough of the potential losses of Rotten Loans to let them still make enough profit on the overall deal!

    When Mark-to-Market hit, any Bad Loans had to be re-valued to what they would sell for if someone put a gun to your head and asked your selling price under the condition you had to close the sale in the next hour. What would YOUR Home's selling price be under those conditions... Hint: Nowhere near what you'd like it to be! All that was forgotten or swept under political rugs in order to blame banks for essentially doing what any sane businessperson would do under those conditions!

    Barney and Bill encouraged a You Should Own A Home culture and when people discovered they could get mortgages on homes they otherwise could Never afford... IN A Buyer's Market... houses stopped being Homes and morphed into Fast-Gain Cash Cows. Houses changed from Homes to Investments, and highly leveraged "futures" ones, at that. That got renters and flippers excited.

    I believe the get-rich-quick culture, compounded by Barney and Bill's stupid manipulations of the otherwise Free Market in homes lit the fuse. The banks and investment companies tried to capitalize on the distorted market so naturally politicians blamed THEM for the problems caused By The Politicians!

    Yeah, I would love to have gotten a piece of some of those banks' profits, but hey... I did... I sold a Silicon Valley postage stamp about a year before the bubble burst. (timing just happened that way) and got to trade UP in house at a lower purchase price in a wonderful area AND live a year or two off the 'excess profits' that Bill and Barney helped me get.

    I don't blame the banks. I blame the politicians and the greed of economic illiterates who got sucked into the bubble because they didn't know shit about how economics Really Works...

    Oh, and by the way, when all that paper was being transferred from the one FM to the other FM, I'm told that NOBODY EVER looked at the numbers on the paper to see if they were right or even realistic. Logistical, Bureaucratic Process FAILURE.... so everyone but the guilty parties get blamed.

    I watched it happen. It seems that nobody else saw the wall or the handwriting on it.

    Cheers!
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    Exactly. Statists at the top of the heap followed by corporatists followed by Guido and Luigi as we used to refer to our union President and his VP
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  • Posted by blackswan 9 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    Why do you pick everyone except the ring leaders of this debacle - the politicians?!? They're the ones who passed the laws mandating that the banks were to do what they did, under threat of legal action . Look into the Community Redevelopment Act, and the trail of crumbs from that.
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  • Posted by Dobrien 9 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    1st Glass Steagall was repealed by B Clinton allowing banks to sell securities then Bush in 2004 increased banks ability to leverage up . Then buy the ratings agency .Get high risk loan rated AAA Then sell the $hit .No Money down , no job or income verification in other words unsound banking at its worst .Then collect fees on the origination of the loan and dumpy the loan into a pool of securities .While the schemers collect huge bonuses ripping off the shareholders . But wait then the stakeholders get hit again with the
    Fines and still of course bonuses still paid again to the grifters because they are so valuable to the corp. When they should rot in said manure pile.
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  • Posted by 9 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    "toss two-thirds of the financial community into the dumpster"
    More aptly into jail cells, but agreed, that isn't likely with the corruption evident in and between the Dark Center and NYC.
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  • Posted by davidmcnab 9 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    And now the USA appears set to send his wife back to the White House, this time with her wearing the pants. What will they call him? The "First husband?" Or some politically-correct gender-neutralised rehash of the "First Lady" title?
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  • Posted by bbuckeye 9 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    As I recall he half halfheartedly tried to end it, but the political fallout was too great. But it began in the later part of Clinton's second term. This caused the overheated housing market which led to the collapse.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 9 years, 1 month ago
    After seeing "The Big Short" there is no question as to why no one was or is prosecuted. There were stupids, vapiids, villains, good folks, bad folks deaf, dumb, and blind folks. You'd need to pretty much toss two-thirds of the financial community into the dumpster. It will never happen.
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  • Posted by davidmcnab 9 years, 1 month ago
    Was there not a case of clear and wilful deception involved? That is, selling off the sub-prime loan books, in full awareness of their toxicity, without communicating this to the buyers?
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    you have yet to realize there isn't a dimes worth of difference between a socialist statist/corporatist and a socialist corporatist/statist so go ahead and vote for one of the three... All the same...Which is it Trump, Clinton, or Sanders? Three choices of evil this time and they want you to join the secular progressives and pick one.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    The Congress wrote the rules first and the PResidents signed them ....not without collusion with the megabanks they are all part of the same group. In the end the Government slammed the banks for their 'fair share' of the loot and just to teach them that Statist is the senior member of the fascist cartel Corporatists come second and union leaders suck hind tit.

    The three parts of socialism working together for their own ends is also known as the ruling class, the aristocracy the neo feudalists and more than that the one's you are going to vote for again they don't care which of the three it's all a charade.....and they can find enough willing to sell out with ease.
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  • Posted by 9 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    Since you are so reasonable today (grin) how about giving up the priviledge of issuing legal tender as loans created from nothing. Whaddaya say?
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  • Posted by 9 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    Hey if you don't like these rules you shouldn't have caused the Great Depression. That's where most of the "rules" came from, and then the banksters re-wrote them using their tools in con-gress to draft their entry into the casino that caused the current Great Depression.
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  • Posted by 9 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    You have yet to realize that the "financial industry" aka, banking cartel, controls the treasury department and via corrupt election finance laws controls the con-gress. It wasn't the con-gress that pushed to relax the regulations that kept the banking cartel from gambling. Neither was it the con-gress that sold products to customers as sound while knowing in detail that they were not, and proving that by taking the opposite position than what they were selling. Were all the employees of the banking cartel at fault? Of course not, but that is where the CEO's and other executives should take responsibility and correct the policies that control such actions. Instead the actions have been rewarded and continue today.
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  • Posted by jhagen 9 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    I know what you're saying. ...And to your point; the more something is regulated, the less right and wrong enters the thought process. It's one of the reasons over regulation doesn't work - even more so when the regulation's goal is social engineering.
    As to the risk taking; either a person did, or they were gone (meaning: find a new career). It was a direct, and VERY predictable, consequence of the regulations.
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  • Posted by bbuckeye 9 years, 1 month ago
    The persons who should have gone to jail were Bill Clinton, Chris Dodd and Barney Frank who in their zeal to enable "everyone" to buy a home, pressured Fanny Mae and Freddy Mac to support sub-prime mortgages.
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