Agreed, I can only speak of my personal experience with the immigration process, but let me just preface it with this.. throughout the process my husband and I made contact with at least 5 federal agencies including (DHS, USCIS (which now have merged to some extent, IRS, DOS, ICE, Border Patrol) 2 visits to the US consulate 3 submissions of original documents including birth certificates, marriage certificates, criminal background certifications for the US AND Mexico, $15,000 in attorney's fees $7,000 in fees to DOS and USCIS, and $3,500 for travel expenses to the US consulate, 2x medical exams.. oh and those cost $550 each paid in cash US dollars, 2x vaccinations (including 2x vaccinations against chicken pox even though he had it as a child) and of course biometrics. It took 4 years of him waiting outside the US but he did finally get his legal status. With regards to the background checks from outside the country, we needed to submit a police report stating that there was no contact/incidents of any criminal activity which comes from a local police station. Unless there is some record from the CIA or Interpol databases, or the local authorities, there is no way to really check criminal background outside the US.
Sorry that my opinion enrages you, but facts are on my side. Every since WWII USA has become the main belic country on earth, exercising military oppression and exploiting humans everywhere. Taylorism crashed with the financial crisis of 1929 and that capitalist-liberalist economy crashed, hard. So again after that the state had to step in, and speculation was used in favor of "the people" creating an illusion that once again crashed several times, especially six years ago.
Unfortunately for you my dear friend, USA is the main oppressive force on earth. And yes, it´s the deadliest as well. Of course it´s not the only one, but it´s the most guilty. And if you believe the US and Britain are the best example in the west, well let me prove you wrong there once again. Germany is the thriving economy, and in Europe there are other examples such as socialist Sweden, Finland, liberalist Holland and "mooching" Switzerland. The most powefull economy on earth, industrialy today, is China. Many American "citizens" are to be held responsible for this (very low wages due to the incredible offer of chinese man power). And if another good example is to be shown, take a look at Japan and Korea for instance. USA started throwing the towel in the seventies, and now is more muscle than brains. Sorry.
Oh, it's all the US's fault according to you? Horse crap!!!! Most of the third world today was "third world" before there even was a US and remains so and will remain so unless they take a few lessons from US and British history and get their acts together. The key doesn't lie with us, it lies with them! They can advance their countries or remain dung heaps! If the US adopts their cultures and becomes like them, then shame on us because the US will become a dung heap, too. "Deadly and oppressive" my ass! The US is likely the least oppressive "empire" in the history of the planet. Just the opposite, actually.
Jiminy crickets!!...a typical liberal reply if I ever heard one...attack the messenger rather than attempt to refute the argument. I assumed the usage of the term "My house" would be self evident as a figure of speech. Especially considering I used quotation marks to highlight it. Oh and by the way6, you are darn right there is a lot of energy coming off the post, we are collectively being robbed every day by these illegals, many of our politicians and liberal apologists like you. Just because you use a politician to steal money, does not stop it from being theft.
The path to legal citizenship needs to be modernized. There is no reason in the electric age that this process should take more than 1 month to complete. I think, though I'm not sure, much of the problem with time comes from background checks from outside our borders. That said, it still means WE regulate who comes in and how many.
It´s a delicate issue, for though it´s wrong that Americans should pay for these things, it´s just as unfair that the rest of the world should pay for many other things that cause these illegal inmigrants to leave their homeland, just as most of us aren´t native americans you see.
What goes around, comes around. USA is an empire to the world, and a deadly and oppressive on at that. Not only does the federal government exploit other countries, usually that´s the reason to why those countries can´t develop. Of course this isn´t the citizen´s fault but, if we go to extreme ideals what are those americans doing with federal tuitions in the first place...isn´t that a some sort of welfare too? No system is perfect, and no system is wrong. The key lies in each one of us...
That is understandable and I agree, however the law states that they cannot apply for legal citizenship as entering the country illegally is an automatic 10 year ban. Entering 2x illegally is an automatic lifetime bar. There is a process to appeal a ban which I am in favor of because it allows each situation to be judged individually. Also, I am speaking of what their options are after they reach adulthood.
The boundaries are vanishing due to the progressives and crony capitalists making them so. I was an expat in Mexico in the mid 90's. You can believe that I had to jump through hoops and register seven ways from Sunday in order to work there - for a US affiliated company. Try to enter Mexico from the south, or even try to transport goods south into Mexico from the US border. You will find that it is quite challenging. Yet voice any desire to place similar controls on the border between the US and Mexico and the progressives raise holy hell. Heck, try traversing the border between Canada and the US in Detroit - as several of my colleagues have to do on a weekly basis. They are harassed and about once a month the US border patrol finds some reason to turn them around. And these are salaried professionals that live in Canada and aren't looking to move to the US (and if they were, would find it easy to do so as they have valued skills).
An illegal action should not be supported with continuation of that illegality. While it is not the "fault" of the child, they still must face the reality that they are not in the US legally. They can rectify that by applying for legal citizenship.
This is analogous to a pawn store buying stolen goods. It matters not that they did so in good faith. Once the illegality of the sale of the goods in the first place is uncovered, the claim of the pawn store is void. So too is the claim of the illegally present child. They must return to their native country.
While you are right, illegal residents are a particularly vile sort of moocher as they have no right to claim what they mooch, yet claim it nonetheless. At least the citizen moochers have a "right" to their claim, at least legally if not morally.
As a person living in a border state I can tell you that his "energy" on the subject is not creating a self-fulfilling reality. Like it or not THEY, the illegals, are here, few have any desire to assimilate into American culture and too many have no problem with breaking laws, milking the system, or even hurting people. Odelia, I agree the boundaries are becoming more an more of an illusion that's to this one world mindset prevalent today. We do not need to "blame mexico" because the problem is Mexico (like it or not). I can provide amble evidence of this or you can search on my name to find my commentary. As for the one world government - no borders being acceptable - try reading my books to see the Achilles heels that you may not have considered.
Reality is that bad along the border and Mexico and their people in the US are violating law and hurting Americans in a variety of ways regardless of whether you see it (I live it).
Not to state the obvious - but it appears from the energy coming off your post - that your viewpoint is giving you the life you are investing in. You mentioned someone stealing in "my house." That is truly terrible when it happens. Did they catch the thieves or is this your metaphor that you are making real for yourself?
It think conservatives are not seeing forest through the trees. The problem is not so called illegal immigration but the state want to takes for the producers and give to one set of moochers over native moochers. They are all moochers to me. The problem is not immigration, but the welfare state. I decided to see military training and work afterwards. Why should or any American have to subsidizes anybody's education. I got an idea get a job them pay for your own college or better yet skip the college scene and lean a trade. As for the immigrant they got every right to migrate and trade like any other human on this planet.
if you want to give away my support for other U.S. parents' kids (since God didn't give me any kids), I consider it like your giving away my land -- theft -- and I will vote against you, every chance I get!
So let anyone in regardless of their place of birth? Why have a border? Why have a government? Why have private property? Sure welfare service in this country are insane but that doesn't "entitle" non-Americans from receiving them. Recall, welfare was originally intended to help unwed mothers get on their feet.
Exactly - you could spend a lot of time finding ways that our government takers give to moochers, picking out all sort of labels for the moochers depending on what group you want to target.
Our giant welfare state will give people all sorts of targets - take your pick - whether illegals, poor, inner city, minority (some now are the majority), women, hungry, needed, unemployed, underemployment, government worker, and of course race/ethnicity regardless of population %.
I agree with you on that level. The order of preference for me would be using the stolen funds for the benefit of the person they were stolen from, or their family, or their neighbors, or within the same state, or at least within the same country -- in that order. The closer to home the money was spent, the more likely the victim would receive at least some benefit.
The article and subsequent posts seem a little muddled, blame illegal aliens, blame Mexicans, blame Obama. As one poster put it - "see a pattern?" Isn't a bedrock of Ryand's philosophy to take responsibility? To join the blame chorus is pretty much a "poor me" chorus. The world isn't how you want it? Change it through construction of the new - not recycled deconstructions. Politics is a thin veil for those able to purchase directional changes in whatever policy, government, mass psyche. There are no more real boundaries in the world. Just the illusion of such.
Huh!!!??? You said..."Isn't a bedrock of Ryand's philosophy to take responsibility? Responsibility!!! whose? Why the hell are we responsible for these deadbeats? They are criminal illegal aliens. I came here from the UK in 1967. My family had to jump through their butts to get to come here and it seems like any wetback S.O.B. can drag his screaming infant over here and hump me and my kids for all sorts of benefits. Everyone seems so concerned about these innocent dreamers. What about my frigging kids. They were born here legally, to a citizen and a tax payer. Yet my kids are being robbed for the benefit of these criminal illegals. Yes I "blame illegal aliens, blame Mexicans, blame Obama" Who the hell do you think is in "my house" stealing my stuff? And to top it off calling me a racist and a child hater when I cry foul. Randyan philosophy does not hold that I take responsibility for someone else. It holds that I take responsibility for me and mine only!
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Unfortunately for you my dear friend, USA is the main oppressive force on earth. And yes, it´s the deadliest as well. Of course it´s not the only one, but it´s the most guilty. And if you believe the US and Britain are the best example in the west, well let me prove you wrong there once again. Germany is the thriving economy, and in Europe there are other examples such as socialist Sweden, Finland, liberalist Holland and "mooching" Switzerland. The most powefull economy on earth, industrialy today, is China. Many American "citizens" are to be held responsible for this (very low wages due to the incredible offer of chinese man power). And if another good example is to be shown, take a look at Japan and Korea for instance. USA started throwing the towel in the seventies, and now is more muscle than brains. Sorry.
What goes around, comes around. USA is an empire to the world, and a deadly and oppressive on at that. Not only does the federal government exploit other countries, usually that´s the reason to why those countries can´t develop. Of course this isn´t the citizen´s fault but, if we go to extreme ideals what are those americans doing with federal tuitions in the first place...isn´t that a some sort of welfare too? No system is perfect, and no system is wrong. The key lies in each one of us...
This is analogous to a pawn store buying stolen goods. It matters not that they did so in good faith. Once the illegality of the sale of the goods in the first place is uncovered, the claim of the pawn store is void. So too is the claim of the illegally present child. They must return to their native country.
Reality is that bad along the border and Mexico and their people in the US are violating law and hurting Americans in a variety of ways regardless of whether you see it (I live it).
Our giant welfare state will give people all sorts of
targets - take your pick - whether illegals, poor, inner city, minority (some now are the majority), women, hungry, needed, unemployed, underemployment, government worker, and of course race/ethnicity regardless of population %.
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