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    Posted by Esceptico 9 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    I saw Cruz lie on tv about what he did to Carson and that underhanded "voter violation" trick. I saw all the tweets and Cruz flat out lied. He then said it was the fault of somebody else, replaced him, and then pulled the same BS on Rubio by photoshopping the head of Rubio onto another photo with Obama. I saw all this. I do not need links to tell me what I saw. Try youtube, or CNN. It was on CNN that I saw the whole thing as it was happening.

    The links I send went to a different issue, not his lying. They simply dealt with the establishment background of Cruz and his wife.
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  • Posted by 9 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    Trump will expose corruption that assists him (e.g.,scapegoats for his own mistakes) and sweep all his favors under the rug, just as he has in his past. Trump is ethically unqualified to be president.
    A new gang ? What a crock of rubbish!
    That's the best reason to vote for Trump? He will take time to get his dictatorship in complete control?
    With reasons like that, the Trump 'movement' belongs over a toilet bowl.
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  • Posted by 9 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    I doubt Cruz would be satisfied with VP under Trump... not that I have a crystal ball or have any great insight into Cruz' thinking;^)
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  • Posted by 9 years, 1 month ago
    I already read those and made comments on them in reply to that post:
    I see nothing in those links about Cruz lying.
    Do you recall the where and when of the tv lies you saw? I can search the internet for them if you tell me what to look for, but I still won't know if its what you saw. (That's why it makes sense for you to do the search and provide the link.)
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  • Posted by conscious1978 9 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    I don't think I've seen another person, in the fedgov, take principled 'stands' that risked his/her political career as much as Cruz—since Ron Paul. I think "establishment" politicians are defined by 'safer' collective actions.
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  • Posted by Esceptico 9 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    I don't read your stuff to know what you included or excluded, but I do think you miss the point of Trump.

    As I see the situation, the Establishment (those in power in the GOP, Dems, and media) underestimated Trump and thought the election would be business as usual with one of their own elected. The GOP would rather have a Dem elected than Trump because they are all part of the Big Government Party.

    Cruz is one of their own, pure establishment through and through. So is his wife. Cruz has publicly shown he is a lying, cheating, underhanded, religious nut case who uses his bible to justify all his heinous behavior. Government and politics should be religion-free zones, but Cruz, like Bush, takes orders from his imaginary friend in the sky as well as his corporate “sponsors.”

    Certainly it is no secret the few whistle blowers who have exposed the corruption have been excommunicated, denigrated, or suffered terrible accidents. Even people outside the System (like Wikileak’s Assange) who risk all to expose the documents of our rulers are treated as criminals or traitors and not the heros they are.

    Donald Trump is now broadcasting these truths. In doing so he is encouraging free speech, a freedom which has been on a losing streak for decades. He has been an insider until now and now he exposes how the top politicians lust for power is funded by their corporate contributors in return for political favors, both above and below the table.

    Few of us favor corruption and this issue has aroused excitement among Americans across the whole political and religious spectrum, from the communist-socialists, the welfare-statists, Christians, Atheists, Constitutional libertarians and anarchists.

    This is the heart of the Trump Political Movement.

    I disagree with Trump about many major issues, but we I hope he can expose corruption from the inside and help bring it to an end. Trump is a negotiator, and many of the issues he touts are shown to achieve the exact opposite of what he wants, I hope he will change.

    At worst, it will be a new gang and it will take time for them to become entrenched.
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    Posted by Esceptico 9 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    Trust, once breached, is difficult to rebuild. I see
    Cruz as a liar and a cheat from what I witnessed on TV and I have not seen him repent --- to the contrary, he almost seems proud of it. To me, case closed unless he does repent.
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  • Posted by $ WilliamShipley 9 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    I think you have to generally support whichever candidate you think is best (or least evil) who has a feasible chance to win. No one who is polling in single digits does.

    Now I will admit that I wait until after work to vote. As a Californian there are times when the election has been called before I get home. Then I vote Libertarian since I can't effect the outcome and I want to send a message.
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  • Posted by $ blarman 9 years, 1 month ago
    If you choose to look at everything through the glasses of a die-hard Trump supporter, you will certainly choose to focus on the smallest perceived slights in the opponent while ignoring such in your own candidate. That's your choice, just don't try to pass it off as being an objective observer to me.

    I drew a direct comparison of the political philosophies of Trump and Cruz and cited how each had acted, then based my decision about the relative strengths of each on the aggregate of those decision. You will note that I dinged Senator Cruz on several issues I could have chosen to ignore if I were a mere shill. Instead, I presented what I consider a fairly objective (though obviously not exhaustive) examination to which I didn't see any objection or claims that I had grossly misrepresented either candidate's position.

    If you feel I have omitted some relevant policy perspective, please present your view. If you want to get into the minutiae of things you don't like about Cruz, just be prepared to deal with Donald Trump's sexual insecurities (the "hands" issue), his awkward comment about how he'd have sex with his daughter, his comments objectivizing women ("a nice piece of ***"), the Trump "steak" lies, and a whole host of narcissistic behaviors. If those are the criteria upon which you vote for a President of the United States, I'll leave you to them.
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  • Posted by $ WilliamShipley 9 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    That's true, but that is because they want to control things. If Trump is a hundred delegates or so short and makes a deal with one of the others, particularly Cruz to run as a ticket. They can announce that ahead of time.

    I think the first ballot still goes according to the primaries and they would have to wait for the second ballot, but there would then be a strong argument for ratifying the team that won the majority of the delegates.

    It could still go against them but it would be much less likely than if they showed up and let people start rolling dice.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    Only when the game isn't rigged. But in that case you can volunteer to lose or volunteer to vote against crooked politics.
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  • Posted by 9 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    You made the allegations of him lying, I didn't.
    I don't expect you to provide links, but without them its just unsupported heresay. Its your argument and your choice.
    i don't watch tv; haven't had one in over 20 years.
    Too much statist propaganda, too little truth.
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    Posted by Esceptico 9 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    I watched the who "Carson quit" crap live. I read the actual tweets. I heard the Cruz response. I heard the Cruz BS explanation. Cruz is a liar, and a cheat not from anything you say is debunked, but from what I actually saw. So, sir, "Please" pay attention to what is actually happening.
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  • Posted by 9 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    Can't vouch for the source being unbiased but the Bush connections appear valid. Hope someone else can add links supporting these connections, or to refute them. Obviously association with Bush's campaign is not proof of Cruz being an insider, but it is an interesting start.
    I don't consider Heidi as relevant. She is not running and I would expect he to be biased.
    thanks for posting the links!
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  • Posted by $ blarman 9 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    Please. That one was debunked as soon as it was proposed. CNN reported that Carson's team in New Hampshire left Carson to join Cruz' team - and it was true. So Cruz' media relations team seized on it to send out last-minute messages to try to sway Carson's voters to Cruz. But it wasn't Cruz or Carson that called the entire voting populace of Iowa "stupid".

    You're going to fixate on an obviously photoshopped picture as gross evidence of falsehood? Don't look back at the political debates between Jefferson and Madison and the political cartoons they ran against each other. You'd be horrified. They called each other all kinds of names that make even Donald Trumps insinuation about Megyn Kelly' menstruation look tame. Hint: Cherry picking usually is a rather poor method of persuading others to your viewpoint.

    "He has a win at all costs mentality."

    Again with the insinuation and editorials. Prove it. If Cruz were that way, why does he continue to denounce a brokered convention even though he is in second place with a slim chance to win? You sound just like Donald Trump when he accuses his opponents of being "nasty" people, "liars", and other such personal attacks - the hallmark of a "win-at-all-costs" mentality. Let's stick to specific issues and leave the name-calling to the politicians.
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  • Posted by $ blarman 9 years, 1 month ago
    Johnson's problem is name recognition - he has virtually none. And without a major party to back him financially and get him media time, that isn't going to change (not that the media are going to give him much coverage anyway).

    I don't want to be the one throwing cold water, but he's got a long way to go to have a real shot.
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    Posted by Esceptico 9 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    You don't need links, just watch tv. In Iowa, for example, what he did to Carson and his cheating voter violation trick show lying and cheating. When caught, his excuses were lame. Look at the photoshopped photo of Rubio. When caught, Cruz's excuses were lame. He has a win at all costs mentality. Nonetheless, Stockman (link above in this thread) thinks he would be a good supreme justice.
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  • Posted by Esceptico 9 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    Refute Cruz is not establishment? Even cursory examination shows this to be false. However, you are correct that ad hominem is not proper.
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