Directive 10-289 Proposed

Posted by DaveM49 11 years ago to Politics
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A rather creepy proposal for a Constitutional amendment written by someone who does not appear to have read much of the Constitution. A lot of it seems horribly familiar....


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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 11 years ago
    The United Americanism website is creepy and weird. Is it made by one 26 y/o guy? He has 4 followers on Twitter, but the website is pretty slick. I wonder if he is supported by any large organization.

    Why does it talk about Stage I w/o mentioning Stage 2?

    Some of your are saying it's "socialist", but I can't understand what it's saying.

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  • Posted by Temlakos 11 years ago
    First, Richard M. Nixon arguably was first to propose Directive 10-289 in real life. Think "Ninety-day Wage and Price Freeze."

    Second, that "general welfare" clause is very much abused. Maybe Judge Narragansett's reforms involved replacing "general welfare" with "welfare of all the States" wherever it appeared.

    Third--I agree. This does look like Directive 10-289, and in much greater detail.
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  • Posted by Notperfect 10 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Agreed. I have listened also to some CD's on how Madison was so intrigued with Hamilton and his plan to go right back into the same type of Government we had fought against. Hamilton might have written many quotes in the Federalist Papers, but I still think he was a person that wanted nothing more, but control. What better way to push his agenda than offer his services to some of the founding Fathers. As you quoted not good for this country. At that time they went to to Philadelphia, but no one had any plans except James Madison and he befriended Hamilton. As before I agree with you 100% but as Patrick Henry told them many times they would pay for what they really wanted. James Madison considered Henry as a thorn in his side. You can go to www.mikechurch.com and get the cd's yourself. Some believe some do not. From study I believe Hamilton was a pariah.
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  • Posted by Zenphamy 10 years, 12 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Hamilton was a died in the wool Federalist. Washington took him into his administration where one of the first things he did was start a Federal Bank, then got involved in the Whiskey Rebellion in Penn started over the whiskey tax. Talked Washington into leading an army group there to put down the rebellion, Washington realized how wrong it was and went back to the capitol, while Hamilton remained and put down the rebellion.

    He was not a good man for this country.
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  • Posted by Notperfect 10 years, 12 months ago
    I have read in the past also Hamilton wanted to go right back to the kind of government we had just fought a revolution over. He also challenged Aaron Burr to a duel where he should have let well enough alone. Did he progress? Yes he did right into a coffin.
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  • Posted by $ TimCutler 11 years ago
    Sure wish I hadn't wasted my time reading that drivel. The author presumes that individuals are too lazy to find the highest bidder for their labor, and also posits that the American people have always wanted Federal directives to supersede State law. In these elemental positions, the author is simply wrong.
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  • Posted by iroseland 11 years ago
    Just look at the comments on this piece of trash.. this is a shot over the bow by the Elizabeth Warren gang. I am now pretty convinced that they will be running her. Now is when we really need to be helping people to understand the basics like from where our rights come and what proper rights actually are..
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  • Posted by Bryann67 11 years ago
    Poorly written, terrible grammer, idiotic concepts. Trash heap of history type stuff.
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  • Posted by m082844 11 years ago
    If people were looking to adopt a moral code that sanctions theft and tyranny, which uses constitutional chicanery, this would certainly be it.
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  • Posted by walkabout97 11 years ago
    Why are "progressives" always the most REgressive -- wanting to return us to times when king, princes, dukes etc. did for us what they saw as out best interest!
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  • Posted by SRS66East 11 years ago
    Creepy... I agree this comes from someone with a very limited understanding of the Constitution and the interpretations of its meaning by the U.S. judiciary.
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  • Posted by mjhoward1955 11 years ago
    What's really creepy is when people write something, quoting someone else, but twist their words with the use of [...] to cut out what doesn't fit their spin. These folks like to use the word welfare in a way the means "supporting", not "for the good of". It is for the welfare of America to create jobs, bring down the job creators. This is just plain rediculous.
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  • Posted by $ stargeezer 11 years ago
    Just scanning this piece of trash was bad enough. A few spots I stopped to actually read exactly what was written, I had to read and reread because I was certain I missed something - no I didn't!

    A few quotes (and by no means the most incendiary);

    "Men and women are rewarded in reverse ratio to how much they perform. The more you do, the less you get. The worker is exploited. The owners are living parasitically on the backs of the workers.

    The ownership class siphons from workers the luxuries they provide. Society rewards the owner managerial class as respectable citizens. He is one of our respected citizens, and perhaps is praised for his liberal donations to the poor, strutting around securely in social protection."

    and

    "Workers are exploited, the victims of wage slavery. They do not get a fair day's pay for a fair day's work. Wage slaves who are nominally free are not equal citizens to the class that actually controls the political legislation."

    and

    Labor is the superior of capital, capital exists for labor, so deserves much higher consideration. The steel of Lincoln's notion was: The man comes before the dollar, the people before property."

    I've got to pause and ask, "if a business is not able to pay a worker for the work done, but must pay a worker based on what the government "thinks" the worker did, how long until the worker won't have a job?? Oh, I forgot, the business owner CAN'T dismiss his workers and go out of business - he owes everything he has to his workers. The founding fathers are rolling over in their graves over this travesty!
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  • Posted by $ blarman 11 years ago
    So the right to conduct commerce has to go through a government gatekeeper? Wow. Talk about the instantaneous creation of a black market. All anyone of any historical knowledge has to do is say "Isn't this EXACTLY what the Soviet Union did?" And they would be exactly right.

    Not to mention the direct parallelism to part III of "Atlas Shrugged" ;)
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  • Posted by $ puzzlelady 11 years ago
    Well, this is about the most evil thing I've ever read. One might wish it were only one of The Onion's more extravagant concoctions. I wish it were something we did not have to take seriously and just laugh it out of existence. Sadly, many people will be influenced by it and spread this virulent meme emotionally, not rationally.

    The author has cleverly thrown in every buzzword, every trigger to appeal to any political contingent. Everyone will find at least one sentence or sentiment to yearn for or agree with. It is a Trojan whore, a sophomoric regurgitation of political jargon from every side of the spectrum. It would be ludicrous if not so dangerous in its advocacy of totalitarian tyranny wrapped in lip service to individual rights and fueled by envy.

    This writer has missed his calling by a couple of generations. He is tailor-made to have been Hitler's propaganda minister. About the only abridgment of rights I did not see in his screed is criminalization of any criticism of government policies.

    The bloke has clearly put a lot of time into his formulation. It would take an equal or greater amount of time for someone to dissect every sentence into its naked premises. Its character, however, can be summed up in Kipling's famous line, "... the truth you've spoken, Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools."
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  • Posted by Ranter 11 years ago
    They are wrong. The Constitution doesn't make commerce a collective right and not an individual right. It ALLOWS the government to regulate commerce with foreign countries and between the states. Commerce, itself, remains an individual right, limited only by federal regulation as described in the Constitution. What they propose is socialism, which is incompatible with everything in the Constitution.
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 11 years ago in reply to this comment.
    If that's the case, it may be a veiled criticism of gov't regulation and aid programs. If he can get a debate going about an Amendment, it would force people to question whether what we're doing is currently constitutional. I suspect he's a freak, but it would be funny if it were a complicated satire.
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  • Posted by $ stargeezer 11 years ago in reply to this comment.
    Because they are wrong. Now they want to give their violation of the constitution some cover. It's like they woke up and said, "Oh my, all this stuff we've been doing is not constitutional, we've got to fix this."

    I'd suggest that there is nothing this president (or perhaps the last 3 presidents) has written as a EO is constitutional. Certainly the way BO grabs his pen and forces businesses to take money from the pockets of producers and give it to moochers. Sound familiar?
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  • Posted by $ stargeezer 11 years ago in reply to this comment.
    It may appear that the author sees the current acts of POTUS as unconstitutional (and they'd be right) and is suggesting that an amendment is the only way to validate their insanity. What incredible insanity.
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  • Posted by $ stargeezer 11 years ago in reply to this comment.
    Were she to run as the lefts candidate and win - stick the fork in, the US is finished! I really don't think she can win even if she's nominated, but you never know. I'm from IL and we spent the entire 08 election cycle warning anybody who'd listen what BO really was, and now, here we are 6 1/2 years later and people like this kook and the massive push over gats and all the rest of the leftists wet dreams are being rammed down the throats of mainstream America.
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  • Posted by iroseland 11 years ago in reply to this comment.
    I am starting to see parallels..
    She does not come from the public sector
    She has practically no real time in elected office
    before this she didn't do anything of any particular value
    she has made dubious claims concerning her heritage
    She has published a crap book
    Now, two years out she is claiming that she does not want to run

    Its like history repeating itself, only the next time around it will be even worse..

    I have a real feeling that she will be running... Which means that the left feels comfortable enough to show their cards. So, if she does run I will be spending that summer checking out property in Argentina. If she wins, well.. Then I will really need to spend a little bit of quality time getting good at speaking Spanish. Thing is by then, I fully expect to have a fully armed and operational internet service as a subscription company up and running... Heck by then, I will have staffing up between 10 and 15 devs and others. I was up till about 2am coding on this project last night. Sleep is for the weak, and since I will not take on investors ( second handers ) I am actually working a full time day job and working a full time start up at the same time. So, I am now pretty sure that if the "you didn't build that" crowd wins another time around I will have no choice but to get the heck out of here..
    Also, the website in question stinks of professional help.
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  • Posted by $ blarman 11 years ago in reply to this comment.
    "How can you like jobs but not the commercial entities that make them possible?"

    When you are utterly ignorant about basic economic theory. ;) It's not hard to rail on and on about someone else's prosperity when you envy it...
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