we can gather it up by discounting their inter-country
welfare (a.k.a. foreign aid) by the actual costs of their
illegals. . I always thought -- and still think -- that's the
way to get them to pay for the wall. -- j
.

yes, and we-this-person is damned tired of being
kicked around like a football. -- j
.

chief, it is an effort to engender D votes by any means,
however illegal or immoral or strange. . the drive for
power knows no bounds. . it brings wealth with it. -- j
.

you can deport a criminal to a country which will
not take them back. . just give them a snack and a
one-way bus ticket. -- j
.

Simple solution, place an RFID chip in non-violent offenders and if the offender is refused by their home country, drop them from a plane in their home country anyway. If they return kill them.

If the offender is a violent offender and their country refuses them, kill them.

I know that this seems extreme but rest assured that the very threat will greatly reduce the illegal immigration problem. We may have to actually step up and execute a few in order to make the threat believable, but if we do it publicly. Things will come around quickly.

Releasing unrepentant criminals of any sort is a type of madness known only to these current times. Part of it is driven by political correctness. Another part by executive wimpiness inasmuch as the regime fails to insist on other countries taking back their miscreants, and finally, the failure of the administration to see to it that the harshest of sentences are carried out. If a criminal realizes how little there is to lose by committing a crime, they are given an incentive to commit it.

Obama's top immigration official wants to whine about the regime's precious illegals being a "political football" bandied about.
Meanwhile robbed, raped and murdered peaceful American citizens are having the hell kicked out or them.
Anything to swell the ranks of future jackass party voters.
This is why Nancy Pelosi very happily called that illegal immigrant child invasion from Mexico to be "an opportunity."
What the heck? Everybody has to die some day.
We The People amounts to that "political football" if you want to think about it.

The biggest problem is the criminals and how they are treated while they are in prison. A prime example is the MS-13 that is prevalent in Guatemala and Honduras, it started with criminals sent back to those countries that became gang members while in prison. They were sent back and established the gangs there in Guatemala and Honduras and now those countries are dangerous and failing because of those gangs. Also a lot of the drug cartels in Mexico recruit people sent back from prison to be enforcers or henchmen or drug mules. Why do think they keep coming back? Is it for freedom, a better life or is it to commit more crime? Some of these crimes are not prosecuted back where they are from. A lot of crimes in places like Mexico, Guatemala and Honduras are not caught or prosecuted. This is because the police are undermanned and underfunded, so they become corrupt and don't even try to solve crimes, even if they are reported. So since they can get away with crimes back home, they think they can get away with it here. The administration and I qualify that with the fact that bureaucrats stay even when elections happen and sometimes they have their own agendas, help just like Ms. Saldana.

The whole Mexican government thing is a quandry too..I am not sure if they really know who the real government is. More decay as responsibility shifts from individuals to organizations and groups for decisions. The actual people you can say own any issue is so watered down that no one is really ever identified.

I remember that, and there was some serious disagreement on where the limits and responsibility lay. It should never get to the point that government has screwed up, or just ignored the issue that the citizens do have to sacrifice. Both the parties have screwed the pooch on this, and the results have been citizens dying at the hands of people that never should have been here. So why the Republicrats even needed to get into this is a question, just defund INS as nonessential....

The Gulch had an open borders debate several months ago, perhaps last summer. When a nation does not actively manage its borders and immigration policies, it lets in criminals that their own countries will not take back. This is an example of a policy that requires a sacrifice of its own citizens.

Germany seems to be taking everybody, but maybe they'd be happier in the middle east.
Meanwhile the Mexican gov spends resources in the Dark Center "improving" their "image."