That boy was our last hope (no, there won't be another...)

Posted by strugatsky 8 years, 11 months ago to Politics
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Seems that Libertarians are really LINO's - Libertarians In Name Only.

Watch the video starting at 30 sec. mark - and be amazed at the LINO's view of the 2nd Amendment. The "choice" is now between a dictator/socialist Trump, a Marxist moron Bernie, a member of the shitiest family in America - still un-convicted Hillary, and "I just want to be President" Johnson. There is a common threat between all of them, though - no philosophy or morals of any kind, among any of the prime flotsam in America.

Seems like all roads lead back to Hillary…. Heil Hillary, our next and last President!


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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Goes back to Marx and Engels and perhaps. If you tell a lie enough times it will become the truth. Might have been Lenin. He also said you cannot teach Marxist Economics. One must preach it as something to be taken on faith not understood with facts. Those that insisted were taught dialectics. Being as ping pong ball kept their minds busy and off more serious subjects.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years, 11 months ago
    You are wrong. That man is not your last hope boy.

    Your last hope however is one you aren't going to like. Your last hope will be turning on your boob tube and watching the opening seconds of the latest fro the Oval Office. And seeing the individual behind that big desk wearing four stars on each shoulder.

    The country and the Constitution were wasted on civilians.

    Not having ranted I shall return to being very objective.

    How long will that take to impilement?

    24 hours
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I'll add this. Most sat on their couch potato while all this was happening. Most are still sitting on their couch potatoes and and damning any and all suggestions or fixes or alternatives and in doing so making sure their version comes true. Congratulations 2A and the document that constained it IS gone. and most sat on their ass while the final nails were driven into it's coffin Dec 31 2015.

    Some are stirring long enough to make sure that last statement is not unexpectedly overturned.

    So where was all this brilliance when the subject was first brought up? Just waiting in the shadows just like all the other times. The litany of woe and despair and hopelessness makes me sure you weren't worth the effort

    One really has to wonder how much they are getting paid.
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  • Posted by 8 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I think that the intentional misdirection of the purpose of the 2A is done by the Statists so that if enough people hear it often enough, they will start believing it. I think Stalin either created this formula, or fine tuned it.
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  • Posted by $ Thoritsu 8 years, 11 months ago
    2nd amendment is not about hunting at all. Hope he doesn't find common ground with Gary Johnson on this.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years, 11 months ago
    So now the final nail has been driven into the heart of any opposition to the primary socialist candidates by accusing without proof the Libertarian Candidate of being a Romney Socialist whatever that means.

    Congratulations. Are you working for the National Socialists such as Trump or the international Socialists such as Clinton or Sanders?

    How can I say that. The Same way that it was said about Johnson and Weld.

    For sure being from Massachusetts or Cconnecctticcutt or one of the back east places or having driven through there is enough. Need anything more be said. Here we are just starting to hear about some one and they are treated as if they were a black islamic. Guilt by geography. Guilt by association

    Straight up hands down objectivism? No this smacks of the someone who learned their trade working for Pacifica.

    One might expect guilt by heritage especially those eastern European names

    And your answer this this diilemmamama?

    I'm no Libertarian but I'm not from Northern Idaho either.

    Right. State your Common Thread. Trot out the facts in evidence. I have a feeling you've received these sorts of requests before.

    If the final 'last hope' is to be tarred and feathered without trial we mights well get some useful milage out of it.

    "Seems like' is not evidence... the road leads or it doesn't lead. So far your dog hasn't chewed gone much less gone hunting.

    Then when you have done so in a proper objectivist manner I'll show you how it's done.

    It was after all me who first likened the rhetoric of Donnie Boy to Ominous Parallels in a proper objectivist manner
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  • Posted by 8 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I did not mean to imply that education alone was all that is required to run the country or to progress in many endeavors. It is just that education is a required requisite, without which these people should really not be considered for anything past hamburger-flippers.
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  • Posted by voodoo59 8 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Education by itself (regardless of the amount), without any real-world experience, is the most dangerous form of ignorance. I can think of a couple of recent Supreme Court appointees who were obviously educated well beyond their intelligence. The correctly educated person is usually reluctant to step into the rotten morass that is politics.
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  • Posted by jabuttrick 8 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Actually, Hospers was the author of Libertarianism. He was a philosophy professor at USC. His VP running mate was Toni Nathan. They were only on the ballot in two states, I believe, but they did receive one electoral vote cast by a "faithless" Republican elector from Virginia, a state Nixon won. That elector's name: Roger Macbride. Macbride then became the LP presidential nominee candidate in 1976. Here's your trivia question for the day: Who was the first woman to receive an electoral college vote? Answer: Toni Nathan. You can win a lot of bar bets with that one.
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 8 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Interesting. Thanks.
    Looks like one should wait until then before wasting energy over Johnson or anyone.
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  • Posted by Kittyhawk 8 years, 11 months ago
    The Libertarian convention which will choose the party's nominee for president does not happen until this coming weekend. If the vote goes the way this nationwide poll of Libertarians is going, Austin Petersen will be the Libertarian candidate, not Gary Johnson: https://www.lp.org/poll/poll-3-who-do...

    In case you can't see the poll results, Petersen has 50% (8050 votes), Johnson has 31% (4956 votes), and McAfee has 11% (1685 votes).
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  • Posted by Herb7734 8 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I happen to know some expert hunters depending on the season and the location, they do deer, elk, moose, bear, etc. They like the big game. They use rifles, pistols, and bow& arrows. They butcher their kills and sell the hides. There are 2 brothers and a friend. They are not alone. There are thousands like them all over the country. Hunting is alive and well in America. Personally, I'm pretty much the guy Michael is describing. I punch holes in paper. Even when I wasn't disabled, spending a week in the woods under whatever weather was not my cup of tea. Killing Bambi, or any other innocent creature gives me the collywobbles. And I prefer the sounds of a flush toilet to the woodsy human spore. It takes all sorts.
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  • Posted by lrshultis 8 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Sorry for that brain fart or like Joe in "Joe and the volcano", I have a brain cloud. I recall a book "LIbertarianism" way back, was that by Macbride? It made sense to me compared to many of the candidates over the last few decades.
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  • Posted by 8 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Johnson had other issues, indicating that he too has little knowledge of economics or philosophy. I am continually amazed how people with so little education continue to rise to the top. I see this at work, where the least educated have meteoric careers and the educated ones slave away. Maybe education is a trick to keep out the competition?
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  • Posted by $ sjatkins 8 years, 11 months ago
    Of those choices Johnson is by far the best. He is also much more sensible and moral imho than any of the other three.
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  • Posted by freedomforall 8 years, 11 months ago
    If Johnson goes into the convention with Weld as his VP, Johnson will not leave the convention as the Libertarian candidate for president. Weld is a fatal mistake.

    From the Libertarian Party platform:
    "We affirm the individual right recognized by the Second Amendment to keep and bear arms, and oppose the prosecution of individuals for exercising their rights of self-defense. Private property owners should be free to establish their own conditions regarding the presence of personal defense weapons on their own property. We oppose all laws at any level of government restricting, registering, or monitoring the ownership, manufacture, or transfer of firearms or ammunition."

    Weld is not libertarian regardless of his claim.
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  • Posted by lrshultis 8 years, 11 months ago
    Does anyone read party platforms anymore? Here is the Libertarian party's platform adapted in 2014. If you like it better than those of the other parties, vote Libertarian.

    https://www.lp.org/platform

    The only trouble is that nearly every libertarian candidate for president has no idea what a libertarian should believe.
    My favorite was the first candidate who seemed to be a libertarian: Roger Macbride. After him it seems to have been all downhill.
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  • Posted by 8 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I understand that Trump had to do what he had to do. I do not blame or look down on him for that. I have also had businesses (much, much smaller...) and I too had to do what was necessary. Maybe this is one of the reasons that Trump hates Hillary so much (as if one needs to look much for a reason...). However, his stated approach to economics shows that he is part of that same system. This is not a religious, but a historical example to learn from - when Moses took the ex-slaves out of Egypt, he made them wander for 40 years over an area that can be crisscrossed in a few months. The idea, as I'm sure you're aware of, was to make sure that every person with a slave mentality dies and only those born free would have a hand in building a new society. Trump has been a part of the corruption for too long to expect him to be different.
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  • Posted by 8 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I assure you that I am not a product of our wonderful taxpayer paid for and elitist controlled uneducation system. For one, I'm too old for it.
    The definition of a "nationalist" is somewhat vague, and so is the definition of a "conservative;" especially since the "conservatives" have muddied the meaning beyond recognition. But the definition of a socialist is still easily obtainable - government control of production methods, along with redistribution of the results of production. You mentioned that Trump runs his businesses well, focuses on merit and rewards it. That is well within a socialist or a capitalist envelope. Socialism generally results in poor performance, but not always and it certainly has nothing against merit. But that does not take away Trump's graft-based, crony-capitalist (e.g., socialist) basis of his business and his mentality.

    As to where he was born, pardon me please, but after this issue did not prevent Barack Hussein Obama from running the country into the ground for at least eight years, I'll be damned if I should be concerned about Cruz's Canadian roots.
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