They have a weird snore...BZzzaaaaa BZzaaaaa

sheep / sleep -- either way, they're out of the equation... But I like your turn on the phrase.

...or lull them to sheep.

I agree. And for those who want to "think" they are staying informed, there's CNN, MSNBC, FOX, and a slew of others to help lull them to sleep.

In the gun rights thread I posed a question....to invoke thought...to get to the truth rather than assuming the feds were being honest and looking no further into it. :)
People don't like inconvenient truths...OR the possibility of them. Easier to deny and ignore than to THINK it through. Denying and ignoring are practically effortless. Thinking and digging for the truth takes more time and effort than most want to spend... The Kardashian's are on! They are BUSY!

Problem is... you did it, too. In the "Gun Rights" thread, you said: "Did he really? Or are they just saying that in an attempt to try and justify the raid?? "

It was a perfectly reasonable thing to ask -- given today's corrupt political environment. But it is NOT what anyone would have said just ten years ago.

Just over 20 years ago, the justice department sent in what appeared to all the world to be a flame-throwing tank to bust into the main building of the Branch Davidian compound outside of Waco, Texas, and burn it to the ground, killing everyone inside.

Even with helicopter video of the actual event, you couldn't convince one person in a hundred that it was true. Even people who hated Clinton just could not come to terms with the potential of this being true.

Two years later, a completely concocted story about some fertilizer bomb that didn't destroy the truck it was in somehow blowing the face off the Murrah Federal building in Oklahoma CIty. Once again, trying to convince people that the "conspiracy theories" had enough truth to them to make them a serious consideration was next to impossible.

Today, assuming the government is somehow behind the event is almost a foregone conclusion. You almost have to argue the point they were NOT behind it...

That is the crux of my point.

It saves them from the effort of having to really think about the truth.

Mot of these conversations are happening around me, not with me. But for those who I converse with, I do try to work through some of the issues they are having.

I have noticed that every conspiracy theory seems to be somewhere between, say, 70% and 90% absolutely true, provable facts. What is missing is *which* 10% - 30% is conjecture, and what facts are missing completely.

Most of time time, a reasonable person can be shown some of these points, and they'll see for themselves.

What I am noticing, and what is shocking me, is how many people are seeing so many blatantly corrupt things coming out of our government, that they simply *assume* the conspiracy is correct. This is a 180-degree flip from less than 10 years ago -- from my experience, anyway.

I do not buy it. I do believe they are opportunistic. Hijacked Bostonian freedoms in the wake of the bombing, using the tragedies of mass killings to push gun control laws. I think there are larger "conspiracies" at work that do not involve the staging of tragic events but the capture of citizens' rights. so while the coffee shops are filled with conversations of conspiracy, consider drawing them into the very real conversations about their blatant and in your face attempts to legislate away freedoms and lessen enforcements of property rights.

That race-baiting prick needs to go.

Does this shock anyone?

I'll tell you what shocks me. How casually people at the coffee shop talk about government conspiracies like the Boston bombing or 9/11 or Newtown or Sandy Hook -- all just simply *assuming* the government was totally involved, if not completely involved.

I remember when I used to tell folks that one of my associates dealt with the Waco info (from the "inside"), and he told me about what the government was doing and why -- and when I tried to pass that along, people called me a crazy wackoid conspiracy nut.

Now casual conversations include the "fact" that our own government purposefully killing school children just to pass more gun control laws.

"The worst guilt is to accept an unearned guilt" Ayn Rand.

As long as people continue to accept that unearned guilt the Jesse Jacksons, Al Sharptons, Eric Holders and mr. thompsons and Al Qedas (sp) of the world will continue to have power.

LOL

Black and blue, and dizzy.

And I look up through my swelling eyes, and I see Obama. Or is it Holder. Or is it Trayvon. Or is it Michelle, Or is it Pelosi. Or Reed..... Or is it Khalling! ;-)

You feel dead?

And I feel like Zimmerman without a gun....

Yeah..well... me too. Feels like a punch in the gut I didn't see coming.

I, for one, could have done without the drama.

Can you envision the last 7 months with Romney in charge?

I can...and wish it was true.

This is going to get VERY interesting..... (curiouser and curiouser).

Reparations.

The last 4 1/2 years has been nothing but payback for imagined offenses.

But...'we' put him in power!

Holder seems to be an untouchable.

There is no shame in this regime.

And THIS isn't racism..... heh!