GOP Senators Cave on 2nd Amendment

Posted by jimslag 8 years, 10 months ago to Politics
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Say goodbye to the 2nd Amendment and it not being impinged. I have owned guns since I got out of the military, before I joined the military and then the military gave me some bada$$ guns to use for 21 years while I was in. The civilians guns killed a couple of deer and elk and a few hundred squirrels but no people. The guns the military gave me killed a couple of people but only under the rules of war. The thing is those weapons only did what I directed them to do, they never went out on their own and killed or did any damage unless I did while using the weapon. The weapons are not the problem, it is the people using them. Dumbocrats and Gophers obviously cannot read the US Constitution and the Bill of Rights that they are supposed to uphold and defend. I know, I recited the Oath of Office several times in my career.


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  • Posted by Hot_Black_Desiato 8 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Not the point....and I am not sure why you opted to change the subject. There was a distinct parallel. I was neither indicating pro or con for religion only the FACT that "Separation of Church and Sate" be it good or bad is NOT in the constitution.
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  • Posted by $ Radio_Randy 8 years, 10 months ago
    I must have missed something...where, exactly, did the Senate "cave" on the 2nd Amendment?

    Maybe I didn't read between the lines?
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  • Posted by Riftsrunner 8 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I highly doubt you were concealing any pistols from the 18th century. The smallest pistols were not very inconspicuous and were essentially shorter versions of rifles that were slightly larger than the hand. I could see open carry as a method as many pistols could be holstered (and many were). It wasn't until self contained ammunition was more universal that pistols could be made for consealment. Not that I think the founders would have had a problem with concealed carry as I believe they saw firearms as a stopgap to prevent government overreach. Not that it seems to prevent the politicians from trying to eliminate that stopgap.
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  • Posted by $ Thoritsu 8 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Like that much better than waiting period on buying guns. Laws are far more powerful than guns, and enforced with guns.

    I like that idea, but not as much as a limit on duration, after which the law expires if not renewed, and a testable intended outcome. If the law does not accomplish it's intent, it is cancelled.
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  • Posted by DrZarkov99 8 years, 10 months ago
    We hear a lot about how the 2nd amendment is an archaic leftover from a more violent time, and that it should apply only to muzzle loaded black powder firearms. By that same reasoning, religious protection under the 1st amendment should only apply to the Christian, Jewish, and Amerindian faiths, since those were the only religions in America at the time the Constitution was ratified.
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 8 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    There is a war on. More Americans will die.
    IMO, respect for the dignity of those who will be murdered is not allowing them to fall as sheep disarmed to be slaughtered.
    Repeated reports of terrorist attacks is a major reason why I now carry a concealed pistol plus a spare magazine in the opposite front pocket.
    No, I don't really want my preferred dignified death. I prefer to shoot some murdering cur dead.
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 8 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    " left have beaten up religion over the letter Jefferson sent "
    Getting the government involved in religion would be beating it up. Keeping church and state separate is good for all concerned.
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 8 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    "a "let's take a time out and a deep breath and let's think about this" rule."
    I agree and think gov't should do public what-if planning sessions before the crisis happens. I would like to do one for what if someone sets of a crude nuclear device in a populated area. Maybe that's reason to give up some of our freedoms temporarily. We should have that debate now, not right after the attack.

    Since we don't live in utopia, someone will shoot up a place again. Some sneak attack will kill thousands. It's happened throughout history and will keep happening. We should formulate a plan with cool heads and execute it when tragedy strikes.
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 8 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    All the more reason for a "let's take a time out and a deep breath and let's think about this" rule.
    But I'm fairly certain a waiting period measure will never come to pass.
    There are just too many wily jackasses and spineless rinophants playing their gimme games in the capitol building.
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  • Posted by Hot_Black_Desiato 8 years, 10 months ago
    The left have beaten up religion over the letter Jefferson sent to the church of Danbury, to create "Separation of Church and State" which is NOT in the constitution.

    Here is a nugget in a letter from Jefferson to his FIFTEEN year-old nephew Peter Carr.

    During some debates recently some very spirited discussion occurred regarding the 2nd Amendment, open carry concealed carry, and what did the founders REALLY mean. While researching, I came across this. Should there ever be any doubt about what the founders meant by "keep and BEAR (not bare) Arms". It is important to note that when sending personal letters to and from friends your TRUE feelings and views are often laid bare.

    "A strong body makes the mind strong. As to the species of exercises, I advise the gun. While this gives moderate exercise to the body, it gives boldness, enterprise and independence to the mind. Games played with the ball, and others of that nature, are too violent for the body and stamp no character on the mind. Let your gun, therefore, be the constant companion of your walks." --Thomas Jefferson to Peter Carr,
    1785. ME 5:85, Papers 8:407

    That letter sure sounds like National Concealed carry ALL THE TIME to me.

    I highly DOUBT he was referring to lugging around a musket or long-rifle as your constant companion.
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  • Posted by $ Suzanne43 8 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The Democrats exploit emotional reactions perfectly. They really don't care about people...they just want control, and they're getting it.
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 8 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I'm agreeing with you on this.
    A next day or two emotional reaction to something is not a use of logic.
    There's a big difference between knee-jerk and brain-work.
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  • Posted by freedomforall 8 years, 10 months ago
    Two faced lying HRM Donnie:
    "Donald Trump said he would meet with the NRA to discuss ways to block people on terrorism watch lists or no-fly lists from buying guns. The same day, Trump told a rally in Georgia: "I'm going to save your Second Amendment.""

    That's what you can expect from Trump. Ignore the constitution and pass more unconstitutional laws to increase fedgov power.
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  • Posted by freedomforall 8 years, 10 months ago
    Kirsten Gillibrand, D-N.Y., asked: "Where is our spine?"

    Its right next to your brain and your anus.
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  • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 8 years, 10 months ago
    This idiot is an embarrassment to not only connecticut but to America maybe even the cosmos!
    We here in connecticut call him...pissy hands murphy...
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 8 years, 10 months ago
    There should be a waiting period for passing laws. I really mean it. It's not a good idea to quit a job, get married, or do a real estate transaction when you're fire up. You shouldn't even drive when you're majorly worked up. It's like they keep laws like the PATRIOT Act in a drawer some where on standby for the next tragedy.
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