CNN Town Hall article: Gov Weld targets Trump. plays nice with Hillary.
Posted by freedomforall 8 years, 10 months ago to Politics
I did not see the interview.
Is this just biased reporting from CNN or part of a plan on the part of the Johnson campaign?
Is this just biased reporting from CNN or part of a plan on the part of the Johnson campaign?
Also, I'm not for being flooded with jackass party voters, who will have us all speaking Spanish at show up or else Muslim prayer meetings in 30 years or so.
The old-fashioned dinosaur is knida joking now. Well, kinda.
imo, Johnson chose him to only to bolster the impression of being a mainstream ticket for voters. Its a compromise that I wouldn't have made either.
YOU have a bigger problem with inconsistency than Johnson does.
I disagree with some of Johnson's statements, too, term, but he knows from experience that the strict Libertarian approach does not win elections and he can't do a damned thing to return government to constitutional limits if he gets the 1% of voters who understand and agree with the libertarian free market platform.
The reality of the situation is that Trump is the ONLY one at this point who can beat Hillary- not that he is perfect by any means.
The frist thing that is needed is to un-corrupt the system so that there ARE more than two legitimate choices that have a chance. THEN, its education so people actually appreciate individual rights and private property. This is a long term thing, not something that will happen this election.
Sanders is being stupid by falling in with Hillary. He started an anti-establishment movement, which is necessary for him to not be squashed by the establishment like it was this time. He should have gone third party when he found out he couldnt unseat Hillary and kept his movement intact for next election. NOw, the establishment is just stronger than it ever was.
Voting for evil keeps evil in power and they just keep increasing their power.
Look what it took to get Trump this far, who is essentially a third party candidate (the repubs hate him and he just hijacked the party out from under their noses with HIS persona and anti establishment stance).
Given we will get Hillary or Trump, I choose Trump. We are all probably going to get Hillary with her control over the party, contributors, and money. Her face is everywhere and the whole campaign now is "keep the status quo" or "fear the unknown with Trump". Its sickening and a real distortion, given she will do tremendously more damage to the country than Trump ever would.
I hope in the quiet of the voting booth, the voters are anti-establishment and finish off the evil witch Hillary once and for all.
Goodbye Libertarian Party as far as I'm concerned. The rest was a typical political yawner. There are at least a dozen persons in this forum who could do better than Johnson and Weld. It looks to me that This Libertarian Party, with These candidates are barely a step above the party of that old despot, Abie Lincohen. (Our first Jewish president?)
The problem is Johnson and Weld came off as Dumb and Dumber. No personality. No charisma. No explanation of the LP principles and how the LP differs from both factions (Dems and GOP) of the Big Government Party. No “fire in the belly” enthusiasm for the jobs for which they are running. The whole show was a major disappointment to me.
The LP needs somebody like John McAfee to run. McAfee presents well and has all the things Johnson and Weld combined lack. Too late now, the milk is spilled and I think this will cost the LP dearly not only in donations and votes, but hurts the party long term. This is one of the many times I hope I am wrong.
Haven't they heard about the 42 page document of hilteries criminal perversions just released?
I wish the media would ask Hillary, "If you had to choose between Johnson and Trump, who would you choose?" And ask Trump the corresponding question. If they answered truthfully, I'll bet that Gary Johnson would be both candidates' second choice.
If they get into this and take votes from Trump vs Hillary, they suck.
The VP pick appears to be an idiot. Neither of them would EVER be able to debate Hillary OR Trump in a 3 way TV debate. Too bad actually. This WAS a good chance for libertarian ideas to be floated in national media.
Same crap all over again. At least England sent a strong message yesterday.
Speaks weasel, not truth.
Fiscal conservatives unwilling to hold hands with that guy are independents or Democrats. By criticizing Trump and not Hillary, they show Democrats who are Democrats out of aversion the rural stereotype, that Johnson/Weld really are not part of that stereotype. The rural voter is voting for Trump no matter what, so they Weld doesn't lose anything by criticizing Trump.
In one interview, I heard Weld go out of his way to bring up the topic of Clinton's e-mail saying it was bogus. That sounded so refreshing to me because it sounds like a huge nothingburger when they have nothing else to criticize her for. If you think the e-mails are a serious scandal, this won't work for you, but for me it seemed like dropping the political nonsense and stating the facts that we would all agree on if this weren't a game to manipulate people.
There is a good chance my guess is wrong b/c it's based on my own narrow experiences, not studying surveys of actual voters, but it rings true to me.
Bottom Line: I want Johnson to win. I don't care that we don't agree on everything. I don't think he's serious about addressing global warming, which is one of the biggest threats we face. Gov't scope creep and exec power creep are worse. I want him to win.
For those who believe that Trump's wall is a good idea, consider that the size of the cell does not mean that you are in a prison.
I read the ' it will never happen here' posts and LMAO think about the last few years. First the idea of embedded chips. Then everyone runs out and buys a cell phone AKA tracking device. No prob just turn it off. Whoops it doesn't turn off, No prob just pull the battery...next generation are solar http://powered.No internal on off capability...But not to worry it will never happen here.
How about the phone rings and a voice says you are leaving home without you Drivers License Citizen ZX345776. Actuially it wil ssay something like 000-00-0000 using your National Name rather than your street name.
We used those in the transportation industry a few years ago. That provided a very wide sampling test . TWIC or Transport Workers Identification Card. That folded into having your license to do what ever in my case Merchant Sailor. Same chip with added information.
I like the feature on shopping., Ring ring . Your wife's shopping list specified sourdough bread and your grocery bill did not list that item. before you leave the parking lot at Safeway....And you may want to stop by the bank or ATM we note you only have $37 on your person.
Or we have turned off the start circuits in your automobile as your insurance has not been paid. Wait...All good new we charged it to your credit card for deduction from your next paycheck with a fine.
The rest of your analysis about why Weld said Hillary is spot on, even though he's going to cancel out much of his panache with disaffected Republicans by saying so.
In my comment, I'm saying they're both very important, but the Constitution, in particular "gov't scope creep" and "exec power creep", are more important.
It's a large scale problem, so it lends itself to people who never let "a serious crisis go waste." https://youtu.be/1yeA_kHHLow
People who try to exploit the problem are indirectly making the problem worse. I read part of Naomi Klein's This Changes Everything, and it reads like an unintentional parody of exactly what you say: "scare people into allowing more governmental control". She almost comes out and says just that.
The Rahm Emanuel's and Naomi Klein's of the world do not change the fact that this is one of the biggest problems the human race faces.
You have a proven record of supporting socialist politicians whose actions only serve to incrrease their personal power and wealth at the expense of every productive individual.
Take you irrational socialist rubbish and get out of the Gulch. You do not qualify to stay. Every time you post you prove your ideological ignorance.
Why don't you call me or come by here. Because you're a disgrace, and books I love are your fig leaf to be a jerk and pretend like it's for a higher purpose. Of course you won't talk to me like this in person. Take your disgraceful attitude and leave.
Your irrational faith doesn't belong on an objectivist site.
' most economic activity is tied to burning things '
well no,
the major part of human economic activity is growing things.
" scare people into allowing more governmental control".
The biggest problem is not from the scammers and cronyists who put out the scares, it is from the do-gooder class whose misplaced altruism leads them to believe that stuff.
It was until the industrial revolution. I think that led the way to modern capitalism because with agriculture, there's only so much arable land. The world's religions developed in this environment and came up with moral ideas about sharing the god's earth, not charging others interest, etc. Industry allowed infinite goods and services to be produced. I think we're moving to a post-industrial age where production of value is less correlated to energy use. In the meantime, though, we need sustainable energy.
This is truly a hoax. I strongly recommend you do some more research. You are being duped.