CNN Town Hall article: Gov Weld targets Trump. plays nice with Hillary.

Posted by freedomforall 8 years, 10 months ago to Politics
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I did not see the interview.
Is this just biased reporting from CNN or part of a plan on the part of the Johnson campaign?


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  • Posted by $ allosaur 8 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    That was a major turn-off for the old dino.
    Also, I'm not for being flooded with jackass party voters, who will have us all speaking Spanish at show up or else Muslim prayer meetings in 30 years or so.
    The old-fashioned dinosaur is knida joking now. Well, kinda.
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  • Posted by jabuttrick 8 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I also saw the entire interview and agree entirely with mia's analysis, unfortunately. Weld was a particular embarrassment to whom Johnson was very deferential. This ticket gets 5% tops. What a blown opportunity.
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  • Posted by DrZarkov99 8 years, 10 months ago
    I think Johnson made a mistake choosing Weld as his VP candidate. Governor Weld is an establishment toad, which shows in his support of Clinton, despite her Wall Street ties and corrupt Clinton Foundation dealings.
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  • Posted by Esceptico 8 years, 10 months ago
    I saw the CNN Town Hall. This was a once in a lifetime opportunity for the Libertarian Party. They blew it. Johnson, as you may recall, stated on the Stossel show debate that a baker should be forced to bake for a customer the baker did not like — a clear violation of LP’s principle of non-initiation of force and pro individual liberty. He made just as big a mistake when talking about the war on drugs. But, to me, this is not the problem.

    The problem is Johnson and Weld came off as Dumb and Dumber. No personality. No charisma. No explanation of the LP principles and how the LP differs from both factions (Dems and GOP) of the Big Government Party. No “fire in the belly” enthusiasm for the jobs for which they are running. The whole show was a major disappointment to me.

    The LP needs somebody like John McAfee to run. McAfee presents well and has all the things Johnson and Weld combined lack. Too late now, the milk is spilled and I think this will cost the LP dearly not only in donations and votes, but hurts the party long term. This is one of the many times I hope I am wrong.
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  • Posted by $ Thoritsu 8 years, 10 months ago
    I will be done with this Libertarian platform if they target Trump over Hillary. There is no way a Libertarian can prefer Hillary, and if they want to educate the US and take a bite out of anyone, it has to be her.

    If they get into this and take votes from Trump vs Hillary, they suck.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years, 10 months ago
    So how was the conduct of the town hall. A hit job. I don't want to take CNN's word for it. I'm wondering if other than right prez candidate and wrong veep unless they are running him against Biden there was any redeeming moments or just their 5 seconds of fame and being framed.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years, 10 months ago
    Oh well you give them every chance they screw it up. Looks like 15% is a long long long ways off. And i only read the pro lib reports.
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  • Posted by $ CBJ 8 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Actually, attacking Hillary for her Wall Street connections and hawkish foreign policy would have appealed to Sanders supporters even more, as well as to Republicans who are thinking of jumping ship. I think Weld's backhanded endorsement of Hillary was a mistake.

    I wish the media would ask Hillary, "If you had to choose between Johnson and Trump, who would you choose?" And ask Trump the corresponding question. If they answered truthfully, I'll bet that Gary Johnson would be both candidates' second choice.
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  • Posted by mia767ca 8 years, 10 months ago
    i tapped the show...i was not impressed by the two ex-republican governors...they let themselves get side-tracked by the interviewer, Chris Cumo...and spent little time giving details on what they wanted to accomplish, finally saying they just wanted to reduce govt by 20%...essentially wanting to re-arrange the chairs on the titanic as it went down...they contradicted themselves on prohibition of drugs and legalization of only marijuana and the freedom to choose for yourself...nothing about cutting taxes or balancing the budget or dealing with the Fed or the gold standard...they were vague or contradictory most of the whole show...they wanted an air-tight defense of the u.s., but did not want to build a fence on the borders to keep terrorists out...or deal with terrorists among the immigrants...Johnson received 1% of the vote in 2012 as the Libertarian Presidential candidate...he thinks that his only chance is to get into the debates...he needs a 15% polling to be included...falling that, he does not know what to do to get elected...my prediction...not in the debates he gets 2% in 2016...he and Weld are failed politicians not serving liberty or freedom for anyone...
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  • Posted by 8 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    There would be some of that, I'm sure, but the basic underlying libertarian goals are there in Johnson, imo. I wouldn't wipe my shoes on Weld.
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  • Posted by dukem 8 years, 10 months ago
    Reminds me of Robert Redford's character in The Candidate when he surprisingly wins: "Now what do we do?"

    Same crap all over again. At least England sent a strong message yesterday.
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  • Posted by bsmith51 8 years, 10 months ago
    Witness those on the wrong side of history, not getting what the right side is about.
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  • Posted by $ blarman 8 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Global warming? You'd paint that as a problem at all let alone a bigger problem than the disintegration of fundamental rights in the Constitution?

    The rest of your analysis about why Weld said Hillary is spot on, even though he's going to cancel out much of his panache with disaffected Republicans by saying so.
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    Posted by CircuitGuy 8 years, 10 months ago
    My guess is they're going after fiscal conservatives. Some fiscal conservatives are in the Republican party holding hands with the rural stereotype in this picture. https://postimg.org/image/ocvp19jyv/
    Fiscal conservatives unwilling to hold hands with that guy are independents or Democrats. By criticizing Trump and not Hillary, they show Democrats who are Democrats out of aversion the rural stereotype, that Johnson/Weld really are not part of that stereotype. The rural voter is voting for Trump no matter what, so they Weld doesn't lose anything by criticizing Trump.

    In one interview, I heard Weld go out of his way to bring up the topic of Clinton's e-mail saying it was bogus. That sounded so refreshing to me because it sounds like a huge nothingburger when they have nothing else to criticize her for. If you think the e-mails are a serious scandal, this won't work for you, but for me it seemed like dropping the political nonsense and stating the facts that we would all agree on if this weren't a game to manipulate people.

    There is a good chance my guess is wrong b/c it's based on my own narrow experiences, not studying surveys of actual voters, but it rings true to me.

    Bottom Line: I want Johnson to win. I don't care that we don't agree on everything. I don't think he's serious about addressing global warming, which is one of the biggest threats we face. Gov't scope creep and exec power creep are worse. I want him to win.
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  • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 8 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    If that's what their doing at least they could of done a "wink wink" kind of thing...it would of bypassed the liberal heads too.
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  • Posted by 8 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    imo, they are following a plan to look presidential and mainstream. trump turns lots of people off and they want those votes, and they are not going to lose votes with this approach. The other big block of low hanging fruit are Sanders supporters. By not attacking Hillary they look more acceptable to those voters, imo. In the immortal words of Han Solo, "I prefer a straight fight to all this sneaking around." but this is a 21st century American presidential race and that's not going to happen, at least not this early in the race.
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  • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 8 years, 10 months ago
    Scratching my head...thought these guys would be in favor of honesty and abiding by the rule of law.
    Haven't they heard about the 42 page document of hilteries criminal perversions just released?
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  • Posted by 8 years, 10 months ago
    Based upon the excerpts of this on CNN's website, imo, Weld is a statist, not a libertarian.
    Speaks weasel, not truth.
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  • Posted by 8 years, 10 months ago
    Looks like Johnson stays above the fray and Weld is his nasty hitman against Trump.
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