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There Is No Such Thing As Radical Islam

Posted by Wanderer 8 years, 10 months ago to Politics
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Post Orlando, odd posts popped up throughout the web, hostile to Christians, even blaming Christians for motivating the massacre at Pulse. How odd, I thought, the gay community is so focused on its low level persecution by Christians and Western Civilization that it can't bring itself to see the people who not only perpetrated the massacre but, claimed glorious credit for it. Then it occurred to me, when we analyze events and threats, we use our own personal probability models. Even though Christians in the US can do little more than shout names at the gay community, the community is 100% certain the Christians condemn them emotionally. Muslims, on the other hand, just murdered 49 and wounded scores more gays. But, to the gay community, the odds of being killed by a Muslim are so small that they ignore the improbable, no matter how deadly and, focus on what they see as a sure thing, even though it's little more than an irritant.

Strange but, apparently true, the Calculus of Self Deception.


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  • Posted by $ allosaur 8 years, 10 months ago
    Reverse just about anything the Liar-In-Chief has to say about just about anything.
    For example: "Islam is the religion of peace."
    Plus everything he said about Obamascare and transparency.
    Caution: Sometimes he tells the truth just to throw you off his game.
    Two examples all about socialism~
    1. "Fundamental change."
    2. "I want to spread the wealth around."
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 8 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Wooo! How the dinosaur in the room loves to click on anything that says "comment hidden."
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  • Posted by 8 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Islam without totalitarianism is like Catholicism without an infallible Pope or Christianity except for a risen Christ.

    The position of Islam is: The Holy Quran is the word of Allah transcribed accurately in every detail and thus, cannot be revised, nor can Muslims pick and choose between its verses. It's all or death.

    I respect the Jihadi's for being honest. They are doing exactly what their religion orders them to do. Just as I don't respect Christians who lie cheat and steal, I don't respect people who say they are Muslims but, don't participate in Jihad. Muslims who don't kill are as hypocritical as are Christians who do kill.

    I simply don't understand why someone swears allegiance to a book and religion but, doesn't follow the instructions in that book and of that religion. I tend to think of them as either hypocrites or liars. Since Islam orders them to lie about their faith, I assume most Muslims who aren't yet Jihadis are simply exercising taqiiya prior to becoming Jihadis.
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  • Posted by EdGoldstein 8 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Understanding Islam is really very simple. Islam was founded by a primitive tribal leader and enshrines the morals and ethics of his tribe in a form that is immune to being changed. Islam cannot evolve beyond that primitive interpretation of the world. For 1400 years Islam has spread by murder and been maintained by murder. There is nothing else in Islam.
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  • Posted by 8 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    My Jewish friends tell me the Old Testament contains only one call by Yahweh for the Israelites to attack another tribe (which shortly thereafter disappears from history so, the Israelites must have done a job on them). The rest of the Old Testament is an historical narrative, not a call to action.

    The New Testament is, of course, a call against action, a call for infinite tolerance and passivity.

    I'm not a Biblical scholar so, I don't know where or, how many times the Bible instructs us to kill gays. Do you?

    Much Islamic practice stems from the Hadith, which is a very long collection of first hand accounts of how Muhammad instructed people to interpret the Quran. A full Hadith is around 4,000 pages. My abridged edition is 900 pages. My Quran is about 250 pages. The Quran is much easier to read with a Hadith, so you can look up whatever topics interest you, then be directed to the correct verses.
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  • Posted by 8 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    JDG;

    My Muslim driver used to drink beer with me but, give him enough beer and the inner Muslim came out. I once asked what he'd do if his imam told him to kill me. He said "If Allah orders me to kill, I kill." It seems always to be about the unthinking obedience to the dying words of a seventh century tribal chief disguised as a religious prophet.
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  • Posted by tdechaine 8 years, 10 months ago
    Sure there is.
    Islam without the elements of totalitarianism and strict adherence to the words of Muhammad would not be radical. Remove the adjective and you imply that all Muslims who practice their religion in any manner are evil.
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  • Posted by 8 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    What thanks do we get? Condemnation from the Greens and not even a card at Christmas from the people we labor to keep warm and whose lights we keep on.
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  • Posted by Esceptico 8 years, 10 months ago
    The Koran has, according to this website, 109 verses calling Muslims to war against non-believers, and quotes each of the verses (the Bible does much the same but I am not aware of any Abrahamic nations other than Muslims who actually practice killing or imprisoning non-believers). The website is overtly anti-Islamic, but that does not diminish the quotations they show. http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pag...

    I wonder if there are as many calls for the death of gays in the Koran as the Bible, which also demands the death penalty.
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  • Posted by $ jdg 8 years, 10 months ago
    If a conservative is a liberal who's been mugged, and a liberal is a conservative who's been arrested -- then a moderate Muslim is a Muslim who hasn't made his pilgrimage to Mecca yet.
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    Posted by $ number6 8 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    You are aso a CHEAP troll (looter) since you dont support the site.
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    Posted by $ number6 8 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    How about this misspelling FUQ U

    Actually arabic is NOT what I spelled , it is the english version .... And I really dont care that I am a lazy typist ... In addition, I don't care about your quote ... do you want to talk about the Irish Slaves of the Carribean?

    You are a pompous ASS and incorrect on so many things ... including my Irish heritage and the FACT, that I am NOT Islamic.
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  • Posted by 8 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    You continue to misspell everything in English but, the one word you do know how to spell is in Arabic.

    You didn't recognize or understand the quote, did you? No self respecting person of Irish descent would miss that quote.
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    Posted by $ number6 8 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Im an Irish Catholic .... lol ... The onlyone practicing what you call taqiyya (need to spell it correctly genius) is you ....

    Funy, to you if Islamic people dont speak out against terrorism thay are supporting terrorism, if they do speak out.... they are lieing...
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  • Posted by 8 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    SISI sounds homophobic.

    Most Islamic scholars practice taqiiya. All other historical sources say I'm right. Muhammad wanted in on Mecca's religion industry but, nobody wanted him so, he dreamed up his own religion and tried to wedge it into the dozens of other religions in Mecca. He made no progress, got angry and declared all the others false gods. That's when the Meccans threw him out.

    Your religion was a scam that turned into a book of bloody revenge.
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  • Posted by 8 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Carl;

    Read my rather long post on Medium. It gives a humorous take on Islam's founding. The facts are real. That is really how Islam evolved, from a religious scam to a violent conquest. It sounds ridiculous but, it's true. The post is about how I think we might end the Jihad, not by killing them all but, by allowing them to see how ridiculous their founder was.

    https://medium.com/@Penseur/ending-th...
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    Posted by $ number6 8 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    you are wrong and your ridiculous analysis is disputed by most Islmaic scholars .... they should call you SISI ... you are the mirror image of Isis
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  • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 8 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    From what I understand so far in the show is that Zuhdi is working toward a major refermation of islam.
    It would seem that if they got rid of all the stupid violent stuff in the Quran...the book would be half it's size. The funny thing is the OT and some integrations was originally the basis of the Quran...then, somewhere along the way...all this anger, violents, hatred built that faith...if you take all that away...you've got Christianity or Judaism...so why invent something new when the work, the knowledge and the concepts were already their. That's why I think that maybe they did not originally come from the same roots as the rest of us...silly maybe but how else do we explain the differences between us. (of course I am speaking of brain set or the Mind...if some have achieved one.
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  • Posted by 8 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Me too but, I'd like to ask Zudi if he can not believe in violent conversion and still be a Muslim. That's like not believing in Papal infallibility and still being a Catholic or not believing in the Ten Commandments and still being a Christian.

    I have more respect for the Jihadis than the apologists. At least the Jihadis are honest.
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  • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 8 years, 10 months ago
    Hmmm...just started to watch Levin TV and the subject tonight (Friday July 1) might interest us.


    EP82 | Mark interviews Dr Zuhdi Jasser about the fight against Radical Islam

    Dr Jasser discusses the American-Muslim fight against Radical Islam in the face of Western ideas of freedom and the theocratic mentality of Islam.
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  • Posted by 8 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Carl;

    About 10 years ago I had a Lebanese engineer named Hussein, who seemed happy and easy going until, he married a much younger woman back in Lebanon. He continued working for me in Africa but, each time he went home, when he'd come back he seemed more and more disturbed. He refused to talk to anyone about what was wrong.

    After awhile he began spouting Jihad until none of the Westerners could stand to be around him anymore. He eventually came back from leave, very upset, and quit, to kill Israelis.

    We never heard from him again. I can't prove he became a Jihadi and, I can't prove it was because of an unhappy marriage but, that was my thought as it was happening. Something was going wrong in his marriage and his way out was to become a martyr.

    I think that's the problem with all Muslims. Martyrdom is their way out so, even if they seem nonviolent, if something goes wrong in their lives, their way out is to die while killing infidels.

    It's as I said, Muslims fall into three groups: Observing Muslims, Fallen Muslims and practitioners of Taqiiya and, individual Muslims move between these groups as their lives and circumstances change so...

    ...none of them are safe to be around.
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  • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 8 years, 10 months ago
    Agreed. Just like everyone else these days...blame anyone other than the perpetrators.

    The fact is that all of islam is extreme...however, all muslims do not follow it extremely...don't know how they ignore all the harm commanded of them but clearly there are a small percentage that do not buy into it. Our problem is how can you tell which is which prior to their commitment of violence.
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