Of the 17 Republican candidates that started the primary Trump was my last choice.
The primary is over Trump won and I will vote for him.
Newt will make a great VP.

No one called the UN a "serious advocate of freedom". JBS was not an intellectually serious advocate of freedom but dragged down those who were with its crazy conspiracy theories. So do those hysterically pushing the "Agenda 21" conspiracy theory. Your repetition and misrepresentations show that you haven't read or understood anything I wrote.

The viro "sustainability" drive to make nature "sustainable" without human interference is from the US viro pressure group activists and lobbyists, and their movement representatives entrenched in education and government agencies, not black helicopters from the UN.

The UN Man in the Biosphere program is run by each nation, not the UN. In the US it is run by the State Dept., which delegates it to the National Park Service. It has no more power than NPS already has, yet you have nothing to say about the National Park Service and its sordid history for the last century.

Are you calling the socialist UN a "serious advocate of freedom" - really? Do you work for them in come capacity? Do you believe in capitalism and property rights? If you can't believe the words of those employed by the UN or working with them, when they say they want capitalism destroyed, who do you then blame? Who do you feel is the enemy of capitalism and property rights, if you believed in them?It all tracs back to the UN from what I can see, and is linked to one worlders in our own government. They want the same end, the lowering of standards of living in the USA. They have never been able to raise the standards sufficiently in other countries, so the goal is to lower ours, so we all live like third worlders. I have spooken to our city couccil memebers and county commissioners, who seem blissfully unaware that accpeing all these free planning documents and grants, contain the words "sustainable" and "population density" over and over. The Regional Planning group even links from their site to UN associated sites. Sustainable is whatever the fat cats want it to mean, and has next to nothing to do with hard science. Population density is a way to get people into urban settings with no yard or a dictated sized yard. If you doubt this is all about transforming society and controlling people, you better read some of these grants. The only thing I see you saying, sf forget the UN, all is well, Well, I have too many case studies here to believe all is well. Now, you tell me who you blame, because property is being taken. Even the UN Heritage Sites, don't end there. They take personal property for hundreds of miles to created a "buffer zone" around those sites. It just is not right, and Rand would not think it was.

The most immediately dangerous, but it requires knowledge and objectivity to find the actual long-term source.

I have been researching and fighting the attacks from the viros on private property for decades and know a lot about who is and isn't doing it and how, and what to do to fight it here possible. The black helicopter 'Agenda 21' hysteria has been a destructive distraction for a very long time from those who lack the objectivity to assess who and what organizations have the power and influence to in fact be responsible. The source of the damage and threat is not whoever you can find making the most extreme statements in public.

Direct quotes do not mean the evil nuts saying them are responsible for the ideas or have the power or influence to implement them. Lack of objectivity in assessing the nature of the source of "quotes" leads to conspiracy theories. Even worse is when such people ignore the real source of the bad ideas and the power to implement them. They cause only goofy distractions by hysterical anti-intellectuals helping the collectivists discredit their enemies.

This is how the John Birch Society used to undermine freedom. They did all kinds of detailed research and misused it in conspiratorial rationalistic concoctions stringing together out of context details, thereby becoming an easy target to discredit in the name of discrediting serious advocates of freedom. The course of a culture is determined by the ideas adopted and held by those with the ability to spread and implement them, not any goofball caught saying something evil and rationalistically used to hysterically portray the random nuts as a dire threat and source of our problems.

It is even worse than the 'evil man' theory of history disregarding the role of fundamental ideas. It doesn't even correctly identify who is causing the destruction.

Well said Stormi...I would of hoped that ewv would have investigated further, therefore owned the info you just gave him.

It is not hard to find direct quotes from UN officials and their stance on capitalism. Quotes from former heads of the UN. People like Maurice Strong who worked closely promoting their ideas for them. After 20 years of following this issue, we have accumulated quite a bit of info attributed those in the UN. Also, the NGOs which are taking training at the UN on how to sell it. I have a first hand report from a law enforcement officer who was asked if he would be willing to use guns against US citizens to enforce UN Agenda 21. The UN is no cuddly Pooh bear, it is a bunch of socialists who hate capitalism, and I don't see how you can overlook it. Where my brother lives, when property was seized by plowing up residents access to their homes when they would not sell, UN vans were on site. Have you not read of the UN lead climate conferences in Rio and this year in NYC? With or without Trump, these UN bunch want their own tax on US citizens as well. This is not conspiracy, this is their way of leveling the playing field because they feel the US citizen is too well off. The Poope working with the UN to sell false global warming is not happening? Is that a conspiracy also? How about news footage of Obama, exiting the UN, saying he would suppor tUN Agenda 21 in the US?i You are right, the UN will not decend and make it happen, but they ar training the people who will sell it to unsuspecting local mayors and agencies. The UN is the source, locals are the soldiers, unwitting as they usually are.

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The most dangerous terrorist is the one closest to you.

You wrote "With all of the messes needing cleaning up if Trump wins, I don't think ecology will play much of a part". It isn't true and Gingrich's fervent and destructive support of the viro agenda is worse. This is a discussion about Gingrich prior to Trump picking his VP, not Clinton.

voting for anyone other than trump will bring in hillary, and that CANT be the best solution for right NOW. I wont live long enough to see the collapse and rebirth of this country, or the election of a third party candidate like Johnson

I didn't say anything about irrelevancy. But, there is an order and degree of importance and keeping Mrs. Clinton out of the White House is #1 in my estimation. Everything else falls below that to a greater or lesser degree.

This is a discussion about Gingrich. Trump hasn't even selected a VP nominee yet. Clinton does not justify the idolatry for either Gingrich or Trump, and does not make the viro movement or Gingrich's support for it irrelevant.

Well, you're contradicting yourself by using the acronym "REMF" which I have no idea what it means. As for using last names of people who have been widely covered in the news, you're right, I assumed everyone would know who was being referred to.

We shall see. As of right now, I'm not convinced.

We've got to face the reality that while Trump might turn out to be another FDR, there is absolutely no doubt that Clinton will be epically bad for the country to the point where it will be beyond recovery.

You're kidding, right ??? You've never heard of Robert Gates, who was head of the CIA under Bush 41, Sec Def under Bush 43, agreed to carry on as Sec Def under Obama, former president of Tex A&M, etc, etc. Flynn is a 3-star general who was director of DIA.