We used three terms and most classified ads require them full, face, or stove length. Full was 4'x4'x8' Face cord was 4' x 2' x 8'. Stove length 4'x8' by a specified length. This kept the city folks in the State of Willamette from being rooked by the real Oregonians.

and get a generator for just in case. When I lived there wer would get hit really hard about once every ten or so years, that's the weather cycle. All the newbies from california thought having an Oregon address made them woodsmen. My new neighbor had the pellet stove. After that storm he had the generator and some emergency heaters and so forth. I recommended thick stocks sleeping bags and quilts. Very fuel efficient.

Would have been hilarious if it wasn't so funny.

We would take care packages to the newbies. Jugs of water, Top Ramen about $2 a case back then, candles and matches. It would have been hilarious if it wasn't so funny. Did you know that the word Carhartts on it's own will not keep your warm? ha ha ha

They also learned about 4WD manual, chains and winches. One wanted to mount a winch on his Nissan Pathfinder. No! Give it to the wife and buy a real pickmeuptruck . don't forget a bag of sand and a shovel and a flashlight and jug of water with a case of ramen in the car.

"Do NOT forget the gun rack!"

"What for?"

"racking guns of course but even if you don't have one others folks don't know and assume you are packing.

In the end they californicated Oregon anyway. There's just no helping some folks.

So tired of the tax wars I heard Florida had a homestead deal (which is true for certain pieces of land) and moved. Then i learned about hurricanes

Full or face cord? Pellets also require electricity to run the feed augur. Fir for the loggers, pine for kindling, madrone to get the fire burning hot with coals and oak for banking the heat. Our parents were also depression era and know what's going to be like under the thumb of the city dwellers. Reverse time machine. Ilois waiting to be meat,, Morlocks led by the Hag .

Some of the logging trucks had their own pickers and could self load. often bringing down the scrub oak and madrone and selling it on an end of the day run. Stacked in the driveway my weekend work was the chain saw, a rented splitter, wedges and sledges. Typically we would beworking on wood to be burned two winters later. Back then a load was a $100 and produced enough cords to last a winter. May not even be available now at any price.

It may be difficult but it sure ain't easy. Nothing worth having is....

Now that is the missing key I've been looking for. My fear of the fair tax was implementing it without repealing the income tax and ending up with both.

Has to be something like Amendment takes effect Dec 31st 2400 hours Eastern Standard Time at which time the following will be eliminated, must address state income taxes are or are not included under the federal ruling which should be self evident then.....
End user consumption tax wll become effective 0001 hours January1st stipulating what rules are to be followed, any exemptions such as Right To Life and the division or split if states are included and a host of other subjects. Even decidiing if it requires an amendment? It may be complex but it isn't simple. And if it were it would and will be made to look that way.

DB's thought is completely correct.

The question will be how is government funded for the interim year. What technical infrastructure is needed to to imiplement the new system and who pays for it? I would hire the VISA and MC folks for a start and figure out how to do without the tax income from lawn sales and similar. Just a thought.

When I worked in the sawmill between high school and college we did the usual lengthwise cuts then different sizes dependng on the size of the trunk and it's shape AND the current demand for orders. Finally the cross cuts did the lengths. The planers took off 1/8 so they ecame 1 and 7//8 by 3 7/8ths. These days they are more like 1 3/4 by 3 3/4. Reason given is to match them to metric sizes. But we still call them two by fours. Rough cuts were oftgen used in some interior framing though they might have been lightly planed. for strength if nothing else. If the final pieces left over were large enough the became broom and mop handle stock and went to a machine that made exactly that If not long enough they went to fire wood if large enough All tht happened along a conveyeor belt that went to the wigwam burners. One reason why frost never bothered our orchards. (partly true) Later chip board and wafer solved the burning problem.

What happened to unused sawdust. Some grew asparagus. Or it was piled up and left. If you are in the vicinitas you can see the results. About 3 miles south of O'Brien Oregon on Hwy 199 the Redwood Highway which connects I-5 to Hwy 101 and Crescent City on the west side is a nice housing area with a small lake in the center. Tht was the old mill pond. The houses were built on small hills behind and around the pond ...the old sawdust. The mill it'self was dismantled and sent eithrer to Costa rica or Russia and eastern Siberia - a lot of our mills went to those two countries.