I am an urban/suburban guy from birth. While I enjoy the benefits found in the small historic village in which I live, I like being just a tad beyond the close-in suburbs and all the benefits that they have. Good hospitals and doctors, plumbing, and electricity that for the most part, I never need to bother with, etc.etc. I do enjoy nature, but as a visitor. I've visited most national parks, rafted down the Colorado River from Lake Powell to Lake Mead, but I was always happy to return to "civilization" and my good old flush toilet. Of course, a Galt's Gulch is an entirely different matter. The movement to the northwest is a retrograde move, while a true Galt's Gulch would be an advancement in civilization.

This is where I go camping nearly every month. Gorgeous country - just not in the winter ;)

Mr Rawles, a former army intelligence officer, urged libertarian-leaning Christians and Jews to move to Idaho, Montana, Wyoming and a strip of eastern Oregon and Washington states, a haven he called the “American Redoubt”. --- What about us atheists? I bet we are not welcome.

Leave it at that. (We) do not want this to become another L.A. ........

Galt's gulch was not made of conservatives. Nor was it made of doomsday preppers. These people are attempting to escape civilization and live like "mountain men," a direct quote. The gulch made its own civilization of egoists that was far better and more advanced than the one they were leaving behind. While many of these people may subjectively think that living off the land far away from all other people is "better" than being in a city... It is certainly a step backwards in technological advancement.

I see scared people running away from things. Many of these "preppers" as they're known are not preparing for a Fed, soft-money-driven economic collapse, but for a zombie apocalypse, a nuclear winter, rising sea levels, asteroid impacts, etc. While I'm sure many are well versed in the political problems we have today and have concluded it will all collapse one day, they solution appears to be to hide alone somewhere, not to build something better.

If you want a true gulch-builder, look to the Seasteading Institute.

An incredibly beautiful area that would present difficult living for those who don't realize that you spend all summer preparing for winter.

Yea...it's a shame, some years ago, before 08, we could of doubled our profit on the home that I built but we had no idea of where to go...needless to say, we had no clue what was to come...

I always say, "The wives determine where we live."

If I could only convince the old women...

Yeah, that didn't turn out so well last time. This is also a large sparsely populated area with a lot of individualist minds. Bug cities exempted from thinking, rational people of course.

Yeah, that leads to what I was going to say. I am somewhat familiar with that area. I've visited eastern Oregon and loved it. I've heard nothing but praise about the region from some of my friends. However, I fear that the establishment will sweep through that area thoroughly should the SHTF. I hope it never comes to that.

I live in the American Redoubt area. Perhaps that's why we see U.N. mraps up here.

It is one of the wildest and most beautiful areas left for habitation in the US. But it's a hard life up there.