Here's a Twist of reality for ya!..Bank of America analysts: 50% chance we live in a matrix… literally

Posted by $ Olduglycarl 8 years, 7 months ago to Humor
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I once did some "down stream" thinking on, at what point might we out invent ourselves with nowhere else to go...I came to the conclusion that we would reach max entropy after inventing "dimensions within dimensions"...seems that's where these people think we are headed for.

"But also, what the hell is a bank saying stuff like that to their clients for anyway? Consider what your conception of a bank is. I guess they deal in fake money on manipulated stock markets, so that makes them experts on what is and isn’t real?"

I just can't take this seriously, so let's treat it with clever humor.


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  • Posted by $ 8 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Funny thing...it is the bankers that live in a simulation...fake money, fake debt and fake profit.
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  • Posted by $ sjatkins 8 years, 7 months ago
    A bank can figure out if we live in a Simulation? On the face of it this is completely absurd.
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  • Posted by $ 8 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    No doubt politicians involved...goes without saying...But, the central banking paradigm has been going on since the Templar Knights and the black ig-nobility of Venice.
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  • Posted by blackswan 8 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    You still don't get it. It's the POLITICIANS who're behind the shenanigans. The bankers are just bit players, playing their pawn roles for a few shekels. The real movers and shakers in all this are the politicians. They're the ones who come up with the laws to make all this possible. If the bankers did this on their own, they'd be in jail. Just notice that none of them are. Connect the dots please.
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  • Posted by $ 8 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I could add that the "Possibility" for introspection exists in all that are normal-(having no mental or physiological abnormalities).
    Executive functions should evolve normally but beyond that, observation in a healthy culture, even teaching is needed, although, observation, I think, is key...ie, observation of a good role model. That's why a village can't raise a child...it has to be a parent, someone close in which reward, approval, appreciation is possible.

    Just some extra thoughts.
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  • Posted by lrshultis 8 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I doubt that human brains have evolved to the point that a mind's introspection is born with it. The human is still born tabula rasa and it takes years of experience and sometimes teaching to reach introspection, empathy, and any kind of civility with others, lots can go wrong. Survival does not require those kinds of mental attitudes and must though long periods of time be discovered and painfully be taught to others. I have been watching my consciousness since a little kid and could not see how other kids just seemed to function without self awareness. I became very socially anxious and did not want to join in or try to make anything more than acquaintances and even refused to refer myself to them as I. I used a passive voice, perhaps with too much concern for what others liked but that taught me a kind of empathy along with a consciousness of myself. That was not all good since except in an emergency could I use "I" and had to have some therapy in college to make a change. My, 10 month younger brother, could not leave that change alone when he was kicked out of the army, His first hearing me refer to myself as I resulted in a firm "Larry you do not say I !" He has never been one that is not social pressured but does have a degree in psychology and many episodes of being beat up and jail visits. I would say that his bullying attitude has something to do with not being fully self conscious.
    I may not agree with you but your studies are interesting so keep going.
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  • Posted by $ 8 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Hmm...the wide view: something (such as a situation or a set of conditions) in which something else develops or forms.

    Our skull, gives shape to our gray matter.
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  • Posted by $ AJAshinoff 8 years, 7 months ago
    Considering our brain (a mass, floating in liquid in the dark with no sensory perception outside of its nerve network) interprets everything about our world for us. The matrix is nothing more than perception of reality.
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 8 years, 7 months ago
    Here's another twist of reality that's a UFO in Cancun, Mexico. Keep in mind that a UFO and a flying saucer is not the same thing.
    When you can plainly see a flying saucer, you are not looking at an Unidentified Flying Object.
    You are looking at an IDENTIFIED flying saucer.
    Anyone who says different can go fly a kite, me dino says. Yeah, they can go fly a kite.
    You know, there's lots of great high places you can go fly a kite from.
    Consider the high places provided by the ruins of the Aztecs, Mayans and Incas. Unlike Egypt, American Indian pyramids provide plenty of steps to climb.
    And anyone who disagrees with old dino about that can go fly a kite also.

    https://www.latest-ufos.com/2016/09/s...

    Here's some weird music for the kite people from outer space~

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfOqq...
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  • Posted by $ 8 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Again...we're on the same page. I think that existence could not exist without entanglements; it may be how the balance between 0 entropy and max entropy is kept and we do as conscious beings, in sync with the physical laws, play a role in the process...
    It may also be how we have insight, knowledge gained without foreknowledge.
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  • Posted by $ 8 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Thanks...After 6400 years one has the time to sort things out.

    I suppose that's why, behavior, conscience, consciousness etc attracts me. Reading Julian Jaynes brought that quest back to mind.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 8 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I hope so. Most scientists like to emphasize the insignificance of man relative to the vastness of the universe. I think that mankind will play a key role in the evolution of the universe that will have much to do with the mystery of consciousness. I don't presume to know how it works or will work, nor can I predict the time-line, but -- well, that's a whole 'nother discussion.
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 8 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Based on our many tete-a-tetes,you strike me as having turned out to be quite a fine fellow.
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  • Posted by $ 8 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I contend that a conscious man (human) can not do harm, has no wish to rule another and will always gravitate toward ethical and moral behavior.
    Can one be tricked?, coerced or driven to do harm, are there illness that will contribute...yes...but at that point consciousness usually shuts down; access to the mind is blocked off...unfortunately, the sub-conscious still records everything. It will eventually drive most nuts; at that point all of the minds resources will be used to control it...Not much of a life at that point.
    But make no mistake, there are those that are not at all consciously aware of their behavior, at that point...they are only a brain in a body. (just look at the creatures in government or those that want to Take self rule away from mankind). A good percentage of the world are still, pre or very weakly, conscious.

    Just reading today about "executive Functions"...thoughts, beliefs, desires and memories. This is brain work and most achieve it by age 5, some sooner. Bicameral man had it, but was not aware of it and was overridden by the voice, which may have been hallucinated or one's own without realization, some were just guided by animal like instincts. There are those today that hear a voice of something or someone else and there are those with No voice at all...they cannot read to themselves or rehearse a speech in their heads.
    The brain can do many things but it cannot observe itself...that takes a mind, (introspection). An no, everyone does not have it but most I would venture could achieve it.
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  • Posted by lrshultis 8 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    "Like the few of us that are actually "Conscious" and use our "Minds" is an idea that is heard often in various forms. What exactly does that mean? All humans are stuck using subconscious knowledge and mental processes to process percepts before they enter the conscious mind. So how do you judge whether others are using their minds or not? I would agree that a large number of humans are somewhat low on the using the mind scale, but it seems like judging them as to there amount of conscious mental usage is nothing more than a feel good thing with regard to others. When one thinks, it seems like a lot of work even though nearly all the effort has been done within the brain with no sense of effort. For some thinking is an easy thing due to making an effort during a good portion of life. Others who have not have the advantage of learning thinking processes have a much harder time to make sense of their percepts.
    As for the left, the same can be said for the right with the supernaturalism of many and the mundaneness of everyday life. The rational faculty can be chosen by all humans and is done so to each individuals ability, which cannot be decided by others. All you have is your own mental processes and no matter how much you would like others to conform to yours, it cannot and will not happen.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 8 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I think we are in a matrix, but one not anything like the movie. I think that as time passes and if Mr. Rather Bright and associates keep working on it, the universe will turn out to be more wondrously screwy than we of the newly hatched 21st century can even begin to contemplate.
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  • Posted by $ 8 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Cooperative entanglements perhaps?...It's startin to scare me cause I am beginning to realize that the quantum world works differently for a reason...not fully hatched...I'll share when that happens.

    But it's no matrix...there are too many ways to go and too many ways to get there...that statement might hold a clue.
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  • Posted by $ 8 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    My mother had problems but no suicide stuff...I left home at 15...was afraid I'd turn out like that...turns out...don't have those genes...although I still think that it was learned or purposely perpetuated behavior on her part.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 8 years, 7 months ago
    It does seem as if when a scientist comes up with a brilliant addition to the quantum world, the universe alters itself to accommodate the new idea.
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 8 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I have a grown son who has bipolar disorder.
    It took him three years of working with doctors over which medications and dosages would settle him down.
    That early on ride with his suicidal tendencies for about a year was scary as hell.
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 8 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    May be better to ask if they missed their daily prescribed medication.
    Such drugs are supposed to fix problems, but then again, yeah, there can be side effects.
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  • Posted by $ 8 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    That cracked me up...ya gota wonder about these things, why not ask: are you taking the blue pill?

    I say often when given an incoherent response: What prescription Drugs are YOU on?
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