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Hillary supporter tells me he hates Trumps policies but then tells me he doesn't know what they are...

Posted by richrobinson 8 years, 6 months ago to The Gulch: General
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I spoke to a customer this morning who said he is voting for Hillary because he hates Trumps policies. I told him I am voting for Trump because he said he would eliminate ObamaCare. He said "I don't know anything about that". I told him we seem to keep getting killed on trade deals. He said "I don't know anything about that". I decided to give up and get some work done. I believe these are 2 of the most important issues this election cycle and this campaign is devolving into a reality TV show. Wonder what will happen next...


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  • Posted by 8 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Agreed. People should wonder why these agreements are thousands of pages and take months to negotiate. It's not that complicated.
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  • Posted by $ CBJ 8 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    If that was on Trump's website, I missed it. I was just listing the proposals he made that would help move health care toward a free market.
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  • Posted by cjferraris 8 years, 6 months ago
    Some people spend more time researching a new phone than they do a presidential candidate. They sure know more about reality TV than the person that is supposed to be running the country for the next 4 years.
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  • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 8 years, 6 months ago
    Funny, those devoted to hiltery, who's policies depends upon whom she is speaking to, do not realize what her policies really are; yet, they know not that they'd be in favor of trumpet's policies, policies and concerns that have not changed with the audience, had they just listened.
    Whether one likes trumpet of not...there is nothing to like about hiltery, she is not worthy of any consideration at all...not even for bathroom monitor in kindergarten.

    I am still voting for myself...care to be my VP?
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  • Posted by lrshultis 8 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    You forgot the removing or the mandate to healthcare providers to treat anyone who needs treatment whether they can pay or not. Or is that too much for you?
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 8 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    That's the key. I agree with Trump or whoever wrote that. It's not a valid contract if one party agrees to pay any costs for a service and the other party doesn't state what the cost are. There's no meeting of the minds. Just doing that one thing, and setting aside the political stuff about PPACA and immigrants, would be huge.
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 8 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    " People would think it was insane"
    I agree completely. I do the same thing: shop around. You have to find the one or two people at the provider who have a brain. The rest will be confused that you would want to know. Or they think you're broke and can't pay or something. More often they're just baffled.

    I live in Tampa from '98 to '03, and it was better there. It may be worse in the Midwest b/c HMOs started here, so people here are unfortunately used to turning over these purchases to someone else.
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  • Posted by minorwork 8 years, 6 months ago
    I blame the media for the result that emotional, feeling responses suffice for a justification of a position. A valid form of argument with true premises and eveidence supporting the truth of premises asked by me, and you apparently, gets blank stares. Compulsory education and reality shows have done miracles for this media driven oligarchy. The reasons, IMO for the country's increasing divisiveness is in the loss of respect for reasoning in any form. Please help me out of these depths of despair up to the level of cynicism. Anybody.
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  • Posted by Dobrien 8 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The land of ten thousand lakes and 4 health ins co. Options. This wil be the third year in a row of 40-50% increases. Do I buy health ins or food?
    A total disaster that is caused by collectivism.
    I expect by 2pm Election Day they will project a Clinton win in this sad state loaded with new Muslim immigrants. I only hope they freeze their asses off this winter and move to the land of fruits and nuts.
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  • Posted by 8 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Very true but with so few voters listening to issues and focused on the lewd and crude it's hard to see it making any difference.
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  • Posted by 8 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Trump has not been crystal clear on what "replace"means but that probably depends on what kind of deal he can make.
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  • Posted by 8 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Hi Alex. Hate when real life interferes with my Gulch time. My thinking is that Trump will be a little less harmful than Hillary. I just hate when someone votes and they have no idea what is going on.
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  • Posted by term2 8 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I could show him my monthly premiums and those of my friends. What was $156 a month for $1000 deductible insurance is not $409 for $5000 deductibe. Thats UNaffordable care act results.
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  • Posted by term2 8 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Those people are just ignorant and stupid. I have wiped them from my list of people to associate with. Nothing good will come from future friendships with people like that. Use this election to get rid of influences that support Hillary. Good litmus test.
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  • Posted by term2 8 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Supporting a crash and reset is emotionally satisfying. BUT, think about what a crash would be like. Government would first get unbelievably powerful and be against your self interest. Basic services we have grown to live with, would be pretty much gone. Business would be much harder to conduct with all the new regulations- which means it would be harder to make a living. Inflation would get out of control, making your savings worthless. Gold would be outlawed as it was in 1933 to keep you from escaping the dollar crash.

    PLUS, the problem is that the ideas that led us to this point have not just evaporated. The very ideas which caused the crash would just be used to reinvent the same things again.

    Less evil a little at a time is a better fix. Eventually you have no evil left. Start with eliminating PC and bringing corruption to light. We need Trump, Wikileaks, Snowden, and other whistleblowers to come down on cronyisn and corruption.
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  • Posted by term2 8 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Exactly. Me too. Hillary would be a foreign affairs disaster, a sellout to the very 1% who she talks about hating- but who support her campaign, and a killer of the rest of medical care.

    Her big supporters already paid; now she must play.
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  • Posted by term2 8 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Absolutely. But things will be slower with Trump, giving us a few more years without the really offensive statist things. 10-289 will be upon us, but if Trump gets elected, it wont happen so soon.
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  • Posted by term2 8 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Maybe a little slower movement to socialism with Trump. Faster with Hillary. Competition is the savior of the common man. At least Trump wanted more competition in medical care. Hillary wanted single payer- no competition. More competition will result in lower costs and better service, as it always does.
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  • Posted by DrZarkov99 8 years, 6 months ago
    The least emphasized element of Hillary's policies, her positions on taxes, may be the most effective argument against her when dealing with the uninformed. In simple terms, she is not proposing to reduce income taxes on even the poorest among us. While she may screech about "soaking the rich," she's in favor of increased payroll tax, which everyone pays, and is the most regressive tax. She's in favor of a carbon tax, which will affect every element of the economy, making everything more expensive for everyone. She wants to double the tax on capital gains, which she claims is aimed at the wealthy, but anyone with a 401K or IRA will also feel the bite. She wants to increase the estate tax to 65%, which won't harm the truly wealthy, who know how to hide their money, but will destroy farm and ranch families. She wants to increase the corporate tax rate, which will help continue the destruction of small businesses, but leave the big globalist firms relatively untouched.

    The immediate impact of Clinton's plans, without even beginning to assess what happens with the "green friendly" regulations she wants to impose, are that they will provide 54,000 new government jobs while destroying over 550,000 private jobs. I have no doubt the effects if implemented will be far worse than these estimates.
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  • Posted by term2 8 years, 6 months ago
    I have found that support for Hillary is a good gauge of the people I dont want in my "circle of trust". Its like a litmus test for the real inner workings of a person.

    So I am removing from my "circle of trust" all people who say they are voting for Hillary. I will still deal with them, but only at arms length. I wont trust them to support my rights at all.
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