Ballot Box… Soap Box… Cartridge Box?

Posted by BambiB 10 years, 10 months ago to Politics
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It seems pretty clear that there are a lot of politicians who will not be satisfied until America is destroyed. Voting doesn't seem to accomplish anything because the average voter is a moron. How else can you explain that our candidates have been Bush, Romney, Gore, Kerry, McCain and Obama over the past 4 cycles?

The Founding Fathers suffered the insults of the crown as long as they were tolerable - then they revolted. They didn't revolt by saying, "Pretty please, may I keep what I've earned?" They did it by shooting the enemy.

I've often wondered what the most effective means of revolt against our current (unconstitutional) government might be. Is it unarmed protests like the ones to block buses full of criminal aliens in Kalifornia? Is it armed obstruction of the sort that took place at the Bundy ranch? (You didn't think the Feds backed down because they were being NICE, did you?) Or is to going on the offensive - perhaps a few hundred sniper teams taking out filthy politicians across the Country? One thing the Virginia area snipers taught us was that even two dimwits can terrorize a substantial part of the Country by shooting from inside a car. What would the politicians do? Would it be a successful means of forcing a return to Constitutional values?

I know many here are "anti-violence". They don't have a problem with the government repeatedly raping them. And women especially seem to be willing to give up freedom for the illusion of safety. But consider: Everything you love about our government as it was founded first came out of bloody revolution. What are the alternatives?

Discuss.


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  • Posted by $ blarman 10 years, 10 months ago
    I don't think gender has anything to do with the problem. Education means everything. In the study you cited, did it ever factor in the relative education of the two genders? I'm seriously asking to see if there was a high correlation, because while I totally agree that the liberal vote exploded after women were given the power to vote, I also look back at the Founding of our nation when everyone who could took part in political discussion!

    Another reason I say this is because what is the one area of society liberals have focused on so hard over the past 50-60 years: education. They woke up during the great rebellion of the 60's and realized (beginning with the liberal college campuses) that if they could get people to focus on the short-term (instant gratification via sex, drugs, and music), they could get them moving down a path where they would be easily manipulated through either misinformation or sheer ignorance. And they have been perpetuating those tactics ever since.

    Do I believe that an armed rebellion is going to solve the problem? Nope. I think it is going to take an economic collapse worse than the Great Depression - something that forces people to completely re-evaluate not only their lives, but their principles. And something that will be disastrous enough that it forces wholesale political change. The sad thing is that liberal policies are their own worst enemy. The liberal state is based on self-destructive principles that leave them grasping for the next silver bullet, when the reality is that the best thing they could have done was to drop the gun in the first place.

    I like this quote from "Star Wars": "The more you tighten your grip, the more star systems will slip through your fingers." -- Princess Leia
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  • Posted by LetsShrug 10 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Yes, but.... let's face it, he has a point in there somewhere. Of all the women I know, and I worked with about a hundred of them for the last 10 years, barely a hand full could carry on a conversation (no, not even that many), about world events, philosophy, poitics....and most of them voted for bo. I know this is just my own personal experience, but it does seem like men are more engaged in paying attention to these things than woman are. I, of course, am not yelling about how women shouldn't be able to vote, but I don't think anybody who's uninformed should be voting. We are the exception.
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  • Posted by $ Susanne 10 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Ya know... he reminds me of one of those leftist anarchist people. Silent for a long time, and then gets up, starts a rational argument to get your intrest and then says something so blatantly inflammmatory one has to respond.

    Seriously - it's a tactic used by "A" anarchists, communist rabble rousers, and politicians with nothing to lose.

    Know what makes me laugh? Atlas was written by a woman. Pretty darned brilliant one. And here's this guy on a site dedicated to Ayn, her book, and the movie - and he slams wonmen as being sub-human sheep.

    Rational? Not even. Objectivist? Give me a break. His position is so illogical it goes beyond insane - it's Anti-sane.

    And I don't know why I keep getting sucked up oint his psychosis...
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  • Posted by $ Susanne 10 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    It's like watching a pre-teenager lash out at some stranger for being right. See this same behavior in Convicts as well - the immature ones at least. Can't be a man about stuff, has to try to shock and offend for attention.

    And I have no idea why you're even on this post!!! ;-)

    Well, he did get a rise with his little comment. The post has been flagged. (and not for misspelling my name, either...)
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  • Posted by $ jbrenner 10 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    We would have to take my car. My wife's car has GPS built in. However, there are plenty of red light cameras. Going computer-less would be tough for me. I know that prying my daughter away from her cell phone would be impossible.
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  • Posted by khalling 10 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    "What I think is this. Who's the guiltiest man in the room for the current state of men and women in this country? Who started all the welfare programs?Was it women? These started before females were even allowed in politics. So me thinks men started walking on their hands right about that time and made a mess of things. The notion that the gov will take care of women and replace men was started by, ... well, men. The earliest of the pussified men."
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  • Posted by khalling 10 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Well by your criteria only white males would be allowed to vote. I can 't stand the group think. It is a war of ideas we have to win and there are plenty of female, black, latino, asian warriors out there working on it. You are on a site inspired by the big ideas of awoman you would deny the vote.
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  • Posted by LetsShrug 10 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    No...I want him to stand on his hands and spin. It's kind of a low level man maneuver, so he should be able to handle it no problem.
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  • Posted by LetsShrug 10 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Hey.. you don't know if she's like any other woman. She's here. That counts...a lot!! Don't be an angry asshole to the wrong people. Stand on your hands and spin!
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  • Posted by LetsShrug 10 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Ah that explains it. I'm happily married. WHAT?? Okay, Your stats are probably right, HOWEVER, I was born this way. And my mom was the family budgeter so I was taught thrift well. Ugh, women. What are we going to do with them?!! P.s. I am woman. Did you not hear me roaring before?
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  • Posted by LetsShrug 10 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I think there's another factor. Most women didn't understand money and budgets. And why was that? Cuz the men held the purse strings and didn't discuss such manly things with their wives. If you don't earn and don't know what a budget is then thrift and sound financial decision making can't be expected. Men are so darned silly sometimes.
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    Posted by 10 years, 10 months ago
    Didn't mean to leave out the obvious - non-compliance. Ayn Rand's idea of a "gulch" does not seem tenable. There remains no safe place.
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  • Posted by 10 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Actually, no. Government didn't begin to really explode (and deficits begin to rise) until women got the vote. John Lott has a pretty good research piece on that showing that in every state and at the federal level, deficits exploded after women got the vote and ONLY after women got the vote. The research is interesting because it seems to eliminate any other cause for the expansion of government. Women got the vote over a period of about 50 years, beginning in Wyoming and ending with the 19th Amendment. In every case, as women got the vote, the states where they voted began to run deficits. Two adjacent states? Women get the vote? Deficits. Women don't vote? No deficits.

    One idea that seemed to have some merit was that a state that was ready to let women vote might have a generally overall different political attitude - one more conducive to running deficits, the idea being that it was something in the political air, that led to deficits and women getting the vote. Unfortunately, that hypothesis got shot all to hell when the remained of states - including those opposed to women voting - were forced by the 19th Amendment to allow them to vote. Whatever hypothetical "Kool-Aid" the other states were drinking surely was not present in those states - and yet, upon women getting the vote, deficits erupted.

    I do agree that pussified men probably are ultimately to blame. Had they been sensible and refused to allow women to vote, most of the major political and economic problems we currently face would not exist That makes Woodrow Wilson "the guiltiest man in the room". He presided over the passage of the 19th Amendment. (He's also the bastard who enslaved us to the Federal Reserve.)
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  • Posted by 10 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The women aren't going to want to hear this, but statistically, you are directly on target. (Happily) married women tend not to be trouble-makers… at least not the political sort, and not to the degree of their "I am woman, hear me roar" counterparts.
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