Interior Dept. shutting down mining in 10 states

Posted by ewv 8 years, 6 months ago to Politics
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From the Congressional House Natural Resources Committee. This action by an Obama political appointee, the Secretary of the Interior, shows the importance of which party is in the White House regardless of what you think of the president himself. Democrats since Clinton-I have appointed radical viros to run the government.

According to Mark Levin there are almost 4,000 political appointees assigned by the president and those he appoints to do the radical appointing. That is in addition to those they hire to be entrenched in the protected civil service. It is also in addition to Federal judges, about 40% of which have now been appointed by Obama. Another eight years of this means a nearly complete loss of control over how the Federal government functions for what political purposes, regardless of what Congress does or what new laws are passed making it worse.


USGS Study Reveals Extensive Impacts of Obama Administration’s War on Mineral Development

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: October 7, 2016
CONTACT: Parish Braden, Elise Daniel or Molly Block (202) 226-9019

Washington, D.C. – U.S. Secretary of the Interior (DOI) Sally Jewell is developing controversial plans to cordon off approximately 10 million acres of federal lands located in Idaho, Montana, Nevada, Oregon, Utah and Wyoming from mineral development. The withdrawals are one plank of the Obama administration's broader regulatory scheme to create a de-facto Endangered Species Act listing for the sage grouse. Earlier this week, the U.S. Geological Survey (USGS) released an 800-page assessment of mineral potential within each state subject to potential future withdrawals.

House Committee on Natural Resources Chairman Rob Bishop (R-UT) issued the following statement:

“This assessment shows significant negative impacts for western states if these withdrawals proceed. But let’s not miss the forest for the trees. Despite successful species conservation efforts at the state level, and a finding last year that listing the bird under the Endangered Species Act is not warranted, the Obama administration wants total regulatory control and a much more permanent trophy for litigious environmental groups. Along with oppressive land use plans covering parts of 10 states—with restrictions for all types of economic activities—these withdrawals have the potential to be even more punitive and damaging to energy producers and rural economies than an endangered finding. This is a de-facto listing and then some. USGS’s report is small snapshot of the pain to come. This issue will require continued oversight even after the Obama administration is finally gone. Blocking mineral development by another executive fiat is inexcusable, and the Committee will be sure to keep a close eye on it.

“Secretary Salazar told the states they should adopt sage grouse protection plans and they would be accepted. States have spent time and money to create good plans. The current Secretary is now reneging on that promise. The state plans work and the department’s proposal does not. The department’s proposal hurts military preparedness and military ranges in the West, a fact that has never been taken into consideration.”

Background:

At a minimum, the USGS report suggests the withdrawal of such a massive area could have significant negative impacts to nearly 1.3 million acres of moderate to high resource potential. The withdrawal could also affect over 7,000 mining claims across several Western states, including Nevada, Idaho, Utah, Oregon, Wyoming and Montana.
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  • Posted by fyerrick 8 years, 6 months ago
    Our Founding Fathers gave us a Constitutional Republic with the requirement to maintain her. It takes "Enlightened Citizens" to maintain our Republic. Please join us at conventionofstates.com as we Self-educate and then Stand up, Show up, and Speak up for "We the People. We thank you.
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  • Posted by $ blarman 8 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    From your comments, it seems that you regard the Constitution as outdated and irrelevant. Is that the case?

    I still hold that it represents the fundamental ideas which made our nation great and which - if we return to them - can do so again. Yes, with the changing times have come political changes. That's the whole point! Progressives didn't take control all at once - they steadily undermined freedom bit by bit. But to say that a move in the opposite direction isn't possible?

    Pessismists never change the world. I choose to believe and advocate for change and return for Constitutional values.
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  • Posted by $ CBJ 8 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The Libertarian Party is a political party, not a philosophical forum. It exists to promote political positions on issues of the day, not a “sense of life” or an epistemological viewpoint. Like any political party, it will consist of persons who differ from each other regarding other aspects of philosophy. And how “anti-intellectual” is the Libertarian Party, compared to the Republicans and Democrats?

    As for the issue of “hijacking”, I have not initiated any conversations about the Libertarian Party. If you attack the Libertarian Party in your own thread, it is reasonable to expect that others are going to defend it.
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  • Posted by $ CBJ 8 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    My posts have directly responded to individual posts of yours on this thread, not to your original post. And my posts have been on topic to the posts of yours that I responded to. Presumably anything you post on your own thread is not “off topic”.
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  • Posted by freedomforall 8 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Please share your reason for rejecting the current Libertarian party and candidates in favor of those who have repeatedly betrayed their constituents. Name calling doesn't make your argument. Calling up Rand from 30+ years ago doesn't either since she didn't know about the current situation.
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  • Posted by freedomforall 8 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    It appears that you have some history with the Libertarian Party that you haven't shared, ewv. I'm not asking that you share it, but something other than what I wrote is causing you to react in this way, and it doesn't appear to be the current libertarian party or Gary Johnson. I see the libertarian candidate as the best chance for a solution to the original problem posted. Yes, his election is very unlikely, but that does not make it fringe or irrelevant.
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  • Posted by roseys4 8 years, 6 months ago
    Regardless of your opinion, this is another reminder that non-elected officials and Federal agencies can determine the laws under which millions of state residents live. One by one our rights are being taken away by executive order, administrative acts & judicial overreach. The States created the Federal government and its now time to take the power back. Its time for an Article V Convention… it may be a long shot, but it also is our only shot to peaceably & constitutionally restore our Constitution.
    And you wonder WHY we need a Convention of States? Government just became the largest employer in our country surpassing manufacturing for the first time in our history; The Department of Education holds our states hostage withholding funds (that we paid) for not mandating Genderfree bathrooms; The Presidents wife demands certain cerals be removed from the marketplace. Its TIME folks...If not US then who?... If not NOW, then when?...Wait for the Tyrannical Federal Government to devour the Civil Society or join us. Visit here to learn more, sign the petition, and volunteer: http://www.cosaction.com/?recruiter_i...
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  • Posted by 8 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    CBJ has been told several times what is wrong with his "one vote" sophistry rationalizing why we shouldn't vote, except to give it to him, so it won't be repeated. If he cared to follow what has already been written several times instead of hijacking the thread to repetitively promote the Libertarian Party he would already know.

    Throwing away a vote to a fringe party exploiting the election for a publicity stunt is not participating in the election, which is to determine who will be president. It won't be Gary Johnson and nothing he does will change that. No "future historian" will see CBJ's "one more vote" or care.

    A vote can't be "meaningless" for every candidate except their publicity stunt. They repeatedly tell us through a contorted rationalization that our vote doesn't matter but they want it for themselves. 'Your vote doesn't matter so vote for me'.
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  • Posted by 8 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    You don't know what Pragmatism is. Voting in self defense where it makes a difference is not "pragmatism" and not "immoral". Throwing away votes to a fringe party with no clue as to what it takes to change the course of the nation is not "Objectivist principles". The Libertarian Party has not "grown" with "Objectivist philosophical principles" and has not become compatible with Ayn Rand. Promoting Libertarian Party election publicity certainly is off topic to this thread.
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  • Posted by 8 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    No one is inviting your repetitive off topic promotionalism. Supporting voting for the Libertarian Party as a supposed means to fight the abuse of the Federal land agencies is at best a cruel hoax, exploiting other people's suffering in a scam for a publicity stunt. The Libertarian Party is a fringe organization that has not and will not have any affect on the Federal lands management problems. Not only will not win the election, it has no record of any impact on policy and doesn't even have a position on the Federal lands problems, seemingly ignorant of the whole issue. It even waffles on the "conservation groups" responsible for it.
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    Posted by 8 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The strategy for reversing the downward trend of the country is spreading better philosophical ideas which determines how people vote for what policies, not "supporting enemies". Ayn Rand wrote extensively about this. Voting where it is possible to make a difference for our lives is not a sanction and not an "alliance with your enemy". Stop misrepresenting those who reject you. Ayn Rand also explained extensively why she rejected the Libertarian Party. It's "offensive" in politics has failed for 40 years, as predicted. Stop blaming it on a conspiracy against you and those who refuse to support you. The anti-intellectual Libertarian Party is a fringe operation with no idea what it takes to affect the course of a nation. Sacrificing ourselves to it in the name of "idealism" is destructive.
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    Posted by 8 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    You have no idea why the electorate has rejected your fringe party for 40 years or what it takes to gain support for proper political policies. It is not because of a conspiracy by a "cartel".
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    Posted by 8 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    No one is forcing disagreement down your throat. Your hijacking of this thread with irrelevant sophistry promoting the Libertarian Party is inappropriate and wrong.
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    Posted by 8 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Your personal smears are disgusting. The refutations of the repetitive sophistry on behalf of demands for support of the Libertarian Party, all of which you have ignored, are not "propaganda" and I am not a "propaganda minister" for explaining why the hijacking of this thread is wrong and inappropriate.

    Voting in the election to make a difference where it matters instead of following a hopeless fringe, anti-intellectual publicity stunt is not "pragmatism". Ayn Rand was not a "pragmatist" when she urged a policy of "anti-Nixonites for Nixon" to stop McGovern while objecting to Nixon, and she was not a "pragmatist" when she rejected the Libertarian Party on principle even when deciding not to vote for one of the real candidates. You don't seem to know what the philosophy of Pragmatism is or why Ayn Rand denounced the Libertarian Party, which she explained many times. Her ethics were concerned with living in reality, not Pragmatism, and not hopeless fantasizing -- with or without the pandering to pot heads and ignorance of foreign affairs -- in the name of "idealism" without regard to means to ends.
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  • Posted by 8 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Giving up votes for the fringe Libertarian Party publicity stunt instead of voting in the real election for who will be president means not voting. The Libertarian Party proselytizers are repetitively demanding such non-voting in the false name of "principle" while denouncing those who vote in the election for what it is.

    Voting for a candidate where it makes a difference within a limited choice where that is all that is possible is not a "failure to learn from history". Anyone who has learned anything from history knows that Hilary Clinton would be devastating for our lives. Throwing away votes for a fringe party publicity stunt does not change what the elections are, have been, and will continue to be in the foreseeable future.

    We did not make them that way and you will not change it. Libertarian Party fantasy does not change what the election is in fact about or the fact that the limited choice is imposed on us, not our "responsibility" for not following you. Your accusations of "refusal to take responsibility" for not going along with you are offensive. It is false sophistry and morally reprehensible. Stop smearing people in moral intimidation to manipulate us into giving up our votes for your attention seeking.

    If I did not already know the history of the Libertarian Policy, the repetitive nonsensical sophistry, slogans and offensive accusations trying to manipulate people through hijacking this thread, while evading all objections, would be more than enough by itself to not want anything to do with it. But I do know what the Libertarian Party is and will not sanction it, let alone sacrifice to it. It does not represent Ayn Rand, as she explained extensively, it does not represent me, and it is not relevant to this thread.
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    Posted by 8 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The Libertarian Party is profoundly anti-intellectual. It has for 40 years ignored the requirements for a philosophy and sense of life as the basis for a free society of rational individualism. It remains a fringe party that has gotten nowhere. It is the same attempt to use an election for a publicity stunt that it always was and which Ayn Rand denounced decades ago. To get attention for itself the so-called "party of principle" is now running a couple of has-been Republican welfare statists pandering to potheads for establishment name recognition, claiming 'clicks' as success. The repetitive, promotional sloganeering for publicity hijacking this thread only confirms again the anti-intellectual, anti-philosophical mentality. It does not belong here. Please stop it.
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    Posted by 8 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Everything you post repetitiously promoting the LP is off topic. If you understood the original post in anything but libertarian floating abstractions you would know that. Rejecting off topic, repetitious promotionalism full of fallacious 'talking point' slogans for a fringe party is not an invitation for more of it.
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    Posted by 8 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Rejecting off topic, repetitious promotionalism full of fallacious 'talking point' slogans for a fringe party is not an invitation for more of it.
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  • Posted by 8 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    You don't change politics with slogans about the states "taking back" anything. It's gone. Reality is not "what we make of it" or what "you want to see". Standing on principles to advocate for a better future requires much more than conservative slogans about 'states rights'. Changing man-made disasters like this requires an intellectual groundwork which does not begin with 18th century documents as a premise increasingly regarded as irrelevant because of opposing philosophy. The reality causing this downward trend is much more than current political reality by itself, which is bad enough.
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    Posted by 8 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Your repetitive nonsense in the name of "The Truth" is zealotry, not discussion. It does not belong here. Please stop it.
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