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    Posted by $ 10 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    And here I thought Objectivism was supposed to be an ideology of free thinking and individualism. Guess I was mistaken. Apparently Ayn Rand's practice of demanding conformity and expelling anyone who didn't bow down to the ideology of the Objectivst collective carries over to her followers as well...
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  • Posted by $ 10 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The title is only oxymoronic to fools who have bought into the lie that religion is the source of morality.
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  • Posted by $ 10 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    All groups feel that the individual must be subjected to the collective. That has nothing to do with either Liberalism or Conservatism, as they BOTH use the law as a means of accomplishing that end. Collectivism is simply the inherent nature of all groups. It's called group think. And yes, Objectivists are included in that.
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  • Posted by Zenphamy 10 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I didn't agree that the premises were rationally proposed, so any supposed research that supports nonsense premises is therefor nonsense. Bullsh$t in, Bullsh$t out.
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    Posted by Hiraghm 10 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    No, I mean anybody who's observed the behavior of Berkly and its denizens and alumni.
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  • Posted by Hiraghm 10 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Just like people have forgotten the little tidbit of history that the Bolshevik's crushed the Menshavik's, ultimately resulting in Stalin's supremacy.

    Hitler's philosophy the opposite of Stalin's? Not at all. They BOTH felt the individual must be subjugated to the collective. Same philosophy. Note the wording; "must be subjugated".

    Again, you keep trying to conflate the classic definition of "liberal" with the modern usage of "liberal". In current usage, "liberal" is synonymous with "leftist".

    And, no, leftists require individuals submit and follow the collective; conservatives require individuals to obey The Law, which is a foundational document designed to protect the rights of the individual. Not the same thing.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DioQooFI...

    Objectivists don't require members to submit and follow, merely requires the individual to respect the rights of others *or they are not Objectivist*. Note the lack of coercion.
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  • Posted by Hiraghm 10 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Wow, even the title is oxymoronic.
    I understand atheism. YOU don't understand conservatism.
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  • Posted by Hiraghm 10 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    " coupled with the mandate priests be celibate,"

    Please elaborate? How does celibacy turn one into a homosexual child predator?

    Of course a personally reasonable atheist cannot be; he rejects the supremacy of God altogether; there's no "saving" to be done for an atheist.
    Edit to add: In some religious philosophies, as I understand it, atheists are neither condemned nor saved, but enter "limbo", an indeterminate state. (and a "born-again atheist" would be contradictory).

    I did *not* just Objectivism to justify immoral behavior, if you're referring to the statement that got me sent to Coventry. I tried demonstrating that Objectivist philosophy *can be used* to justify immoral behavior. (and NAMBLA is of the collective opinion that pedophilia isn't immoral, which goes to my point that without a foundation of morality, leftists can justify *any* behavior that makes them as individuals happy, without any framework to regulate their behavior).
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  • Posted by $ AJAshinoff 10 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Incidentally, today they (Leftist D's and RINO's) are seeking to validate people's mental state as a prerequisite to own a gun (so much for 2nd Amendment). I wonder who renders that determination and WHEN it which creative ways it will be used against an individual who disagrees with an ruling party's ideology.
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  • Posted by $ AJAshinoff 10 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Not sure how you figure that. If anything it makes you more accountable for your actions, even if you can gain forgiveness by asking for it. Its not a license to do anything you wish.
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  • Posted by richrobinson 10 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    What about the liberals Maph. Do they not speak of groups of people as if they all think alike? Is that not painting with a broad brush?
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  • Posted by khalling 10 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    But that was not your point. You used Objectivism to justify immoral behavior. Although, I agree Catholicism does not condone not teach pedophilia, the ritualistic culture/history of alter boys, eunuchs coupled with the mandate priests be celibate, creates an environment more conducive to such behavior. You cannot ignore the statistical data, that we are aware of. The whole "Born again" concept seems at the most basic insincere. Not that people do not make mistakes, fall off the wagon, but more the concept of in the state of being "born again" you will be saved while a perfectly reasonable atheist cannot be.There's alot of hypocrisy in that and the religious should face that head on. Rituals of convenience I call them.
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  • Posted by $ AJAshinoff 10 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    This is the final time I will post related to anything you write. Why now? Because sometimes a person needs to be smacked with both barrels and now its your turn.

    You, with your myopic perspective, are the image of the current and future slave masters of the world. The current/future slave being any person of any color, of any sex, of any nationality and of any orientation. In short anyone who doesn't subscribe to your spoon-fed, kool aid saturated view of the world and how it should be.

    The monumental heights of your gibberish transcend any value you offer to any conversation. If you are sincere in your words and your assessments then you willfully and voluntarily reject all rationality and reason.

    Rant on.
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    Posted by 10 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Automatically dismissing well researched information as supposedly being "nonsense" simply because you don't like the conclusions? Doesn't seem like a particularly rational or objective position to take, if you ask me.
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