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Was a vote for Trump anti-Objectivst?

Posted by richrobinson 8 years, 5 months ago to The Gulch: General
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I voted for Trump and I do think he has the potential to be a great President. That being said I would stop far short of comparing him to John Galt. Clearly he is not John Galt. I have heard it said that voting for the lesser of 2 evils is still a vote for evil. However, Ayn Rand said that there are 2 sides to every issue but the middle is always evil. I felt that not voting or voting 3rd party was falling in the middle. Wonder how others feel about this.


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  • Posted by tdechaine 8 years, 5 months ago
    Not really; else you could say a vote for anyone these days is the same.
    He is certainly not a Capitalist, not an egoist, and often not rational. Voting for him could have merely been a vote against Hillary or a vote for change without knowing where he truly stands on most issues.
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  • Posted by $ Radio_Randy 8 years, 5 months ago
    All men are evil, at heart, relatively speaking. ANY vote is picking the "lesser of two evils", as men are not angels.

    In this case, Trump's winning of the election may just give us the breathing room we needed to slow, if not reverse, the degradation of our country. Perfection can never be attained, only approached, and it will take our continued efforts to hang on to every positive change we can.

    If nothing else, my days will most likely be brighter for the next 4 years.
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  • Posted by edweaver 8 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    For what it's worth, after the primary I didn't know if I could pull the lever for Trump. But I keep my mind open to let him earn my vote. About a month ago he had qualified for a vote against Hillary. By election day I was voting for Trump, not just against Hillary. Upon hearing his acceptance speech, I believe I made the right decision. Time will tell.
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  • Posted by term2 8 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I hope I am right about him. I was so impressed by his children that I thought the apple doesnt fall from the tree. Also he actually built up a big business in NY, and he just never gave up. We need that in a president.
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  • Posted by $ CBJ 8 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    As I said in another thread, even though they took several very unlibertarian positions and ran a less than flawless campaign, Johnson and Weld still accomplished quite a bit. They tripled the LP’s previous presidential vote totals. They were a key factor in Trump’s victory, drawing some votes from Hillary and, more importantly, acting as a “safety valve” for #NeverTrump Republicans and independents by drawing votes from them that would otherwise have gone to Hillary. Over the election season Johnson polled as high as 12%, revealing a large group of voters who are fed up with both major parties and willing to seriously consider third-party candidates who are more in line with their views. These voters will at least consider Libertarian candidates in future elections. And the LP received unprecedented media coverage this year, including endorsements by half a dozen major newspapers. Not all the coverage was positive or sympathetic, but the same certainly also holds true for the major parties.

    The bottom line is that even though the Johnson/Weld campaign was far from 100% libertarian and far from 100% perfect, it was powerful enough to decisively break through the 1% ceiling and lay a foundation for the LP’s continued growth.
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  • Posted by term2 8 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    We do have a tough road ahead. Trump will slow down the decline, but you can see from the riots that the liberals wont go down quietly when their entitlements are taken away.
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  • Posted by term2 8 years, 5 months ago
    I voted for Trump also, but it didnt do a lot of good here in socialist Las Vegas !! I think that he is a force against the socialist tide, although in the position of president, there will be political pressures to conform to the socialist mold.

    He is a pretty strong willed person and he DID make it past the establishment roadblocks, so we will see.

    I saw Hillary are a very evil and supremely crooked influence in our country and I just couldnt just allow her to take over and run us faster into the ground. I hope I never see that phony smiling face ever again that she put on to look more acceptable. She has evil in her heart I think.
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  • Posted by 8 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The Clintons are a crime syndicate. Now that they are no longer relevant and the Democrats don't have to protect them any longer I wonder what will happen...
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  • Posted by 8 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The Supreme Court alone is a huge win. Repeal of ObamaCare is another. Curious to see what the first 100 days bring.
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  • Posted by Rex_Little 8 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I don't think Libertarians in general, or Johnson and Weld in particular, are to blame for Johnson's low vote count. The electorate was so polarized that no one was going to vote Libertarian if there was the slightest chance that doing so would give victory to the Greater Evil.

    Libertarians and other third parties won't have a real opportunity until we get instant runoff into our electoral system.
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  • Posted by gpecaut 8 years, 5 months ago
    Absolutely not. Rational thought would lead you to vote to stop Statism A third party vote does nothing. That leaves voting for the lesser of two evils, thus, a rational thinking Objectivist would vote Trump.
    Where we as Objectivist fail, is in getting a more like minded canidate elected to run during the primaries.
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  • Posted by 8 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I voted "for" Trump. Though flawed I believe he has potential. The Libertarians lost me when they picked Weld as VP.
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 8 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Me dino feels a heck of a lot better.
    Last night I named my AR-15 looking modified 9mm carbine Hillary.
    I would not even have it if she had not run for president.
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  • Posted by Blanco 8 years, 5 months ago
    I voted for Trump as the better option for me as a libertarian. I'm a registered Libertarian, but I usually vote for the person who is reasonably close to my value system and has at least a chance of winning. I'm a pragmatist.
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  • Posted by Esceptico 8 years, 5 months ago
    Rand often made things black and white, which is the fallacy of the false alternative. I, too, voted for Trump. This is the first time I did not vote LP, but between Johnson being so bad it was embarrassing to say I was an LP member and Hillary frightened me to death. Besides, I really like the idea of draining the swamp and appointing Cato-approved judges rather than the likes of Ginsburg and Roberts.
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