Socialists' Fake News - Emolument Clause of Constitution

Posted by dbhalling 8 years, 4 months ago to Politics
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The F___ing Socialists want to talk about Trump (who I hate). This whole story started by the exposure that Hillary was forcing foreign governments to pay to talk to her as Sec. of State.

It is amazing that Republicans are falling right into this diversion. The real question is did Hillary do this, did the Clinton Foundation pay for Chelsea's wedding, etc etc etc.


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  • Posted by $ allosaur 8 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I've read that radio and TV transmissions go into outer space and that ET may have intercepted the alleged first TV broadcast that was Adolf Hitler giving a speech.
    So maybe Sol heard the sound of the evil hag's voice. That's something you don't have to understand to want to go the other way.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 8 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I hope I understand you. It appears as if your first paragraph is satire but your second paragraph is revealing the truth. So..someone sent you a -1 but I'll go for a +1 for being a truth teller.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 8 years, 4 months ago
    All we have to go by is how he will act as president. Too late to disavow him now, as the Stupidos who are trying to sway votes in the Electoral College. As in everything, what counts is what he does. So far, not bad. One can be sure that every move he makes will be put under a microscope by the Left.
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 8 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Me dino has called the evil hag the godmother of the Clinton Crime Cartel, oh, for some number of reasons.
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  • Posted by Dobrien 8 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I meant is it not it is. Who the hell knows but Assange of Wikileakes He says it was a leak from the inside. That inside leaker my be dead.
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  • Posted by DrZarkov99 8 years, 4 months ago
    The so called "blind trust" that people believe somehow prevents influencing our Chief Executive is a farce. Any investor is going to work to make the client wealthier by choosing healthy investments for the blind trust. I don't believe for a second that the investor won't be influenced by trends resulting from the President's decisions, which a business savvy President like Trump would be conscious of. The only way to insure absolute security from potential legal influence would be to require the President to give away all of his or her personal wealth.

    Even CEOs or board chairmen of companies don't always control the decision making process of a business. Shareholders and investors often drive the process. Removing Trump from the decision making process for all of his businesses is one part of reducing the possibility of undue foreign influence. Another could be to create (if they don't already exist) stock with no voting privileges and place his interest there. Premium shares without voting do exist. There are other mechanisms that can make it hard to induce influence without demanding the President divest himself of all wealth, but for the global, diverse Trump empire it isn't easy, which is why it's taking longer than Trump desired to announce the details of the plan.

    The Clinton Foundation investigation by the FBI is still underway, and I suspect when AG Sessions comes into office the pace will pick up. Right now the pending administration is trying to distance Trump himself from any Clinton prosecution so it doesn't appear to be partisan persecution.
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  • Posted by Dobrien 8 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Bla bla bla is the sound of constant blame and no responsibility.
    Jeffery Epstien is a good friend of The Clintons as evidenced by dozens of plane rides and trips to the billionaire convicted pedophiles island.
    It is Putin's fault we know that. Thanks Vlad.
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 8 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    There are those who really, really want Russia to have hacked what Russia is said by some to have hacked to convolute a then discredited Trump, what with The Donald said to be Putin's good friend and all.
    He said. She said. They said. Said! Said! Said!
    Whoa! Why did "bla, bla, bla!" just pop into me silly dino head?
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  • Posted by $ MikeMarotta 8 years, 4 months ago
    It might be the free market at work. "... forcing foreign governments to pay to talk to her as Sec. of State." I mean, money would be one way to measure just how important this discussion is, as opposed to a social call... If you want a capitalist government, you should think through what that means... Maybe, like the income tax and direct election of the Senate, the Emolument Clause should not be in a new, Objective constitution.

    (And what about John Paul Jones serving in Russia? ... or the Flying Tigers working for China? ... In fact, many American soldiers received military decorations from foreign governments. Gen. George S. Patton was granted 14 of them, Gen. Colin Powell seven, Gen. James "Mad Dog" Mattis three.)
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  • Posted by coaldigger 8 years, 4 months ago
    It is difficult to consider these issues without emotions caused by the specific people involved, Trump, Obama the Clintons, etc. I am concerned when anyone that has accomplished success in private life is barred from holding public office without sacrificing their personal assets. America was an agrarian economy when Washington became president and he owned a large plantation. Some of his "assets" were even human beings yet his honesty and integrity gave creditability to the new nation and kept it together through the turbulent period of gestation. He didn't divest Mt Vernon or any of his other assets. Rightly or wrongly, the most important activity in the US is business. The actions of the government impacts business in every way. It would seem that sometime we might benefit having a leader that knew something about business and not just be a professional politician. Currently we are being lectured on economic policy by a bunch of hacks that have never managed a lemonade stand.
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  • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 8 years, 4 months ago
    Your right...hiltery and billy bob too...vilolated the law big time. However, I don't see how trumpet is going to comply other than signing over or selling his businesses to a natural party.

    I did catch: The "Prophylactic" rule and wondered if anyone made a big enough prophylactic to cover all of washington dc.
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  • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 8 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I too have been rifling through all of this and it seems that Real People have come forward and said it was a leak not a hack (the DNC at least) and your right, no one owns up in stating the evidence for a "hack" of the DNC.
    As far as clintonia's server...she might as well have just left the door wide open. Any hacking there was due to her own negligence.
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  • Posted by Dobrien 8 years, 4 months ago
    I wish the writer who claimed overwhelming evidence that Russia interfered with the 2016 election would state that evidence.
    Everything that I have read said Russia hacked ,
    came from an unnamed official. What did they hack Hillary's private server.? What a surprise if so.
    Is it because now the FBI agree's?
    The people think voting machines were hacked an votes were change Do? In the Michigan recall many precincts in Clinton's favor couldn't be recounted because of irregularities, mostly because to many votes counted for the number of voters.
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  • Posted by $ MikeMarotta 8 years, 4 months ago
    Both sets of questions are valid, and important. It is falling into a false dichotomy to declare for one side or against another in this. (And it is not "fake news." It is an opinion.)

    I am pretty good at the Constitution. I just gave an edition of The Federalist Papers to a co-worker because it has the best concordance to the Constitution that know of among the many editions of this collection. But I am also sure that most people here think that they, too, know the Constitution. The touchstone, however, are the discussions we have here that are long on opinion and short on citations to articles and sections.

    So, too, in this case. I do not find a violation of the Emoluments clause in either the Trump or Clinton enterprises. But that is because I keep to a strict interpretation of the Constitution.

    These American scientists, who are employed by Federal agencies, are members of the Royal Society of the UK.

    AXELROD, Dr Julius.[1979] National Institute of Mental Health, Building 36, Room 3A-15, 9000 Rockville Pike, Bethesda, Maryland 20592, USA. (Fax: +1 (301) 402-1748). Nobel Laureate, Physiology or Medicine, 1970.

    PRESS, Professor Frank. [1985] Formerly President of the United States National Academy of Sciences. Suite #616 South, 2500 Virginia Avenue N.W., Washington, DC 20037-1901, USA. (Tel: +1 (202) 342-2025; email: fpress@nas.edu; Fax: +1 (202) 342-2407)

    Over 50 others are employed at foundations and universities. Some of those schools, such as the University of Texas, are tax-funded at the state level and also receive federal funds. You might argue that a strict interpretation of the Constitution allows a state governor to be name a foreign prince. I am not so sure that the clause could not be incorporated to the states, as were many Amendments of the Bill of Rights.

    http://vrijmetselaarsgilde.eu/Maconni...

    The humor in the award aside, should the Emoluments clause have prevented Nobel Peace Prizes to Henry Kissinger and Barack Obama... or any similar prize to any American scientist from a federally-funded program?
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