Yes...that's what I meant.

That's US as in you(all of us) and me.... not the U.S.

Was their lobster in the fridge?

Okay...I'm on board.. What do I do now?

P.S. The farmers HAD a philosophy...the schools killed it. Work for what you consume. Be responsible for you and yours. Don't take what isn't yours. Be peaceful, but fight force with force. Have an appreciation for what you've accomplished. :)

I know that! I work in a school! Which is why I'm ALL for home schooling, or private schooling. Get the gov out! They're indoctrination tanks and the teacher just "do what they're told". (Do we want to switch gears and talk about public sector unions and that whole farce?)

I haven't gotten an answer yet. I seriously want to know the plan of implementation to get the media to hold the gov's feet to the fire. It's a great idea! Why is that being taken as circular.

It appears you have a circular game plan. We keep going back and forth with you giving the same questions.

We need to work to get them to do their job!

Back 2-300 years ago a farmer out in the wide open spaces learned he had to plant his crop to grow food to eat. He learned he need to put aside some of the grain to plant next year. He learned that he had to portion out his harvest to last until the next crop and have some extra for emergency.
Not everything is taught in schools and the philosophy they teach did not come until they had enough food to eat and time to sit down and consider it.
Did you learn everything you know in school or did you learn a lot after you left. School is not the end-all of education!

These are great ideas...but how-do-we-accomplish-this? I'm not being snarky...I genuinely want to know the game plan.

Correct me if I'm wrong, EngineerJ, but it sounds like you think the responsibility of fixing this country's problems somehow falls on the shoulder's of others. The media, the successful business owners...etc. It just might US that it's up to to fix.

Instead of trying to attack individual points, what is need is to get the media involved so that there are people to cover multiple points at one time. Maybe a concerted effort to shame a few high profile people into connecting the dots!

What others' students are taught can have a direct affect on your neighbor and her daughter's future....so yes, what is taught in school is important for us all who believe in individualism. Even if all the reporters were doing their job and hitting all the points, would that be enough to wake up the entitled sheep? I think not. Shutting off their welfare and snap card would do it though...but then that power to decide and initiate that goes back to Washington and votes. In order for people to vote appropriately the entire philosophy in this country has to change...back to what it was supposed to be originally. (And there comes the history lessons...which lands us back in schools.) VOILA!

We need to get our house in order and we need to get the media to recognize more than the dot they are handed. They need to expand their view!

School is not a problem for my neighbor, they are not even sure she can communicate. My point is that we can not just focus on one point, we have to do something to get pressure on many points at one time. An individual can not do that, the media is in the best position but we need to get them to do their job!

What do you suggest be done?

Her top priority is probably her daughter's health and future. It all ties in and is all part of the same puzzle. My same main concerns are my kids, grandkids and their futures. I have a son that is insulin dependent...which means he's dependent on getting good healthcare and many prescriptions. The future for him and my grandson scares the crap out of me with the path we are on... Guess what my top priority is....trying to change the path and assuring that he will have what he needs and to keep their freedoms in the process. In other words...my priorities are no different than your neighbor's. Schools play a large part in this equation.

They are fighting for their business and financial life! Shouldn't they be doing something about that!

Connect the dots. It may be a huge thing but if everyone made it that much of a priority who would take care of the other things. For example, my neighbor has a daughter that went into anaphylactic shock and has brain damage. What is her top priority? I do not think school are at the moment.

I'm confused. "Not everyone" has time, but Rand's characters do?

"Not everyone has time in their life to do all the little things necessary." I see these as huge things, not little things. If you don't make them a priority who will?

We need to find some way to revitalize the Forth Estate. That was what they were supposed to do, keep the spotlight on the things that the government is doing wrong. Not everyone has time in their life to do all the little things necessary.

It is very much an emotional rollercoaster. I hope I can shut down my mind and get some sleep tonight.

When the people are taught not to connect the dots they don't know what questions to ask.
As to the Middle East, We used to be the economic power house and that demanded respect.....