Pretty Good!

I think I'd edit 4&5 to "Minimum wage - now called "The Living Wage" shall be increased to $15 per hour. This will also require anybody paid 15 per hour to increase to $25 per hour. In order to be "fair" people being paid $20 per hour to be increased to $35 per hour and so on. All prices are hereby frozen at current retail levels.

Any rumors that all retail businesses are closing are totally without merit. All businesses will remain open for the public good.

#2 - Are you aware that as a large volcano erupts, it spews more "greenhouse" gasses than everything man uses since the industrial revolution began? Should we go and plug those? If you have taken a college Chemistry 101 class you know that all the carbon thats around us in the whole world has been here from the beginning of the world? That carbon is NOT created, it was here all the time. We only make it change states by ion exchange. Burn a candle and the wax gives up carbon in exchange for light. The carbon is taken in by trees and grasses and the carbon is transformed into the life of the plant and when it dies a cycle is repeated that turns that same carbon back into the oil a candle is made from.

Sure, if you toss a garbage bag of trash out on the roadside, it LOOKS nasty, if you spill oil across the grass it's a mess - but it is not pollution. It's energy and matter waiting to transform into the tools of tomorrow.

#9 - Look at what you wrote my friend , your answer is right there and a part of it is the caring heart in your chest. I'm very serious, not joking at all. Please follow me a short ways to see what I'm saying.

You opened with a very honest and may I say, a brave statement. You say that you don't know "anything about the various politicians records on the issue." I'd like to challenge you to take the time to study the history of immigration and the politics behind it - to which you may honestly reply that you're a busy guy trying to make a living - and I'll say to this that I understand, because it's not a short read and to be even more honest, both sides have dirty hands, but it might not be the way you think. My telling you something would be no more assuring than warren telling you something. I know why I believe what I do and it's built on a solid foundation. I believe that if you read both sides and backed that with some history, I think you would be able to arrive at truth. But remember that truth does not have emotion or wishes or even justice. Evaluating the data requires a open mind and a willingness to find the truth.

You say (and this is where your heart may get in the way) you say that you "do not agree with the concept of there being a limited # of jobs to be rationed", and sadly that's just not true AND it's why we must be careful of how many people with what skillsets we allow to immigrate here.

In a wonderfully perfect world we would have the perfect job for every worker. I think you might feel that way and you know what? I would love to see this too, but it's just not the way the world is. There is one president, there are 100 Senators, there may be 5,000 airline pilots and so on. If we allow a extra 200 airline pilots to immigrate each year and our schools are graduating 200 airline pilots each year but only 300 pilots retire each year we are going to have 100 highly skilled and fully trained pilots looking for jobs. No matter how much we would like to say that we can find jobs for that surplus 100 pilots and for the surplus 100 next year, all of these pilots are going to be looking for jobs at McDonalds.

You say "Jobs are cases of people helping one another for money", but they are people competing with one another for jobs.

Once more I hear your heart saying this is America and we can have jobs for everybody. Unfortunately the truth is that there are just so many jobs and if a person doesn't have the right skills, they aren't going to land the one they want. And if there's fifty more people with the same skills trying out for the same jobs, just a few will be hired. And that is where our hearts begin to ache.

I want to reword all of them to make it easier to understand.
1-"Let's choke Wall street but the banks must keep giving us money"
2-"Through unproven science we will make you pay more for everything"
3-"We want complete control of the internet like China"
4&5-"We are going to raise the minimum wage so that all of you pay more for everything"
6-"We already give you 13 years of education, why not make it 20?"
6-"We believe that if you work your whole lifetime, you won't need to retire because you will be dead!"
7-"We believe the Obama Administration should pay men and women the same."
8-"We believe women should not get maternity leave, must have the same Physical Readiness Test standards as men do in the military, and shingle roofs at the same speed as men (including carrying the packs of shingles up the ladders).
9-"We believe that anyone can come here and the government will support them and they don't even have to assimilate into America. Instead we want diversity."
10-Corporations are owned and run by people but we don't care about them. Women want freebies no matter what you religion."
11-"Conservatives believe in a hand up not a hand out!"

"Is it not oxymoronic to 'believe' in science?"

A point I make all the time.
Belief is the realm of faith.
Testing our best current explanation of a given phenomenon is the realm of science.

+1

That's a +1

In the first place it is redundant to print her beliefs when the communist manifesto has already documented them. She is obviously advocating that corporations not provide insurance since she said women should control their own bodies. This wouldn't be bad if we had a robust competitive health insurance market.

Obama has constructed the path. Democrats, will shun his help, but will not hesitate to walk down it. Warren's commandments are the classic paved with "good intentions" on the way to hell.

The problem with immigration is that we are allowing the wrong immigrants. Today a lot of our (legal) immigrants are from india and other places where we have been educating their people in our universities. But these aren't the ones that Warren and BO want to let in - they are more typically conservative in their values and in their politics. They want to throw open the gates to the south where the uneducated there can be easily swayed to the more leftist ideals and socialistic morals they embrace. With these future voters on the hook for every social program they can fund the libs hope to lock in a huge block of voters in the vein of what they have had with the blacks for the past 50 years.

They are now awakening from the trance imposed by "The Great Society", only to find that they had traded 100 years of the social enslavement of jim crow for a slum filled fatherless enslavement of another kind. The price of which was their vote.

If the warrenites succeed in this they may lock in that Hispanic voting block for decades. And perhaps they just may successfully fundamentally transform our nation into one of the worse fears of our founding fathers - a nation under the unquestionable rule of one man. A king - or worse, a Fuhrer.

Faux-cahontas speak with forked tongue.

#2 - If we trash the earth, someone else has to pay for it later, either in cleaning it up or in the form of lost value of living w/o pollution. You can measure the latter by how much more people pay for similar land away from the pollution or for measures to mitigate the consequences of the pollution.

#9 - We got here from a long policy of looking the other way. It wasn't one politician who decided to do it. I do not know anything about various politicians records on the issue. I do not agree with the concept of there being a limited # of jobs to be rationed. Jobs are cases of people helping one another for money. In any case, this fact in no way justifies ignoring our immigration laws. As you say, we treat them like "suggestions", which I think has created a horrible situation.

#10- I agree with everything you said in item #10.

Thank you.

I agree fully with these comments.

On target!

cg-
#2 - we need to stop WASTEING billions on sustaining the Earth. When we stop (and we will stop because we got smart or we ran out of money to waste) the Earth will go on being a bright, shinny place to grow kids and flowers and if we do it soon enough, we'll have some money to buy a little food too.
#5 - I'm confused pal.
#9 - We have laws that the present administration does not want enforced. These laws were in place for 75 years with minor adjustments regarding special skills we need. Either a law is a law or it's a suggestion. Our immigration laws are written to insure a orderly influx of people who want to live here. Now here is the wake up call - our country does not owe anything to any Latin American country that permits it to dump excess populations on our doorstep. The people who are here as a part of that underground BROKE OUR LAWS. We owe them nothing. They are not US citizens and are not entitled to any more civil rights than your average criminal is entitled to.

Less in fact, because they not only broke our laws, they took one of those min. wage jobs away from our kids who need to learn to work.

#10 - Hobby Lobby is a closely held company, sorely owned by the family with no outside stockholders. They operate the company by the Christian tenants of their faith. Unlike other companies, HL states that it shall only exist to uphold these values. They even state that in their company charter that's a part of their incorporation documents. In a effort to meet their charters obligation, HL provides good healthcare that includes 16 types of birth control. All of these are effective when used as prescribed and are freely given by HL. None of these interrupt the birth cycle in any way that is considered abortive.

Enter O-care and Big Gov orders HL to include 4 more birth control prescriptions that DO have an abortive function. Since HL has religious values that would be harmed by their partaking in the abortion of a human life, they refuse to be forced to submit, file to SCOTUS and are upheld.

Some who are against this ruling say that HL has no religious values in their business. This was rejected because HL listed in their founding documents where they stood. This was not a case of gov forcing religious ideas on HL employees - all of HL employees know exactly what HL believes. The employees are not forced to believe what HL does believe, but big gov and the employees did not have a right to impose other beliefs on HL.

Either the state cannot order a religious person to violate his religion or it can force him to violate it. That was the real question and SCOTUS decided that big gov did not have the right to order the owners of HL to violate their faith.

It seems pretty clear cut to me, except to those people who don't think religious people have a right to be religious and that their religion has no value in our nation. In every case that this question has been put to SCOTUS in 175 year they have found that religion is protected speech and has value that is protected like any other speech.

Oratory is an art form. Logic (Philosophy 101 that I took way into the previous century) is taught in another college classroom--in fact, in a different building.

Politicians are good at talking in such a way that the listener can fill in the blanks with what he wants to hear. That's why when you dig into the language, it's vague, confusing, and imprecise.

Her commandments are vague hand-waving, and many of them have strange bedfellows. Number two, for instance: Is it not oxymoronic to 'believe' in science? Science is valuable expressly because it is indifferent to belief. And the bedfellow of 'because science' then 'protect the Earth' is illogical. The first has nothing to do with the second; they should have been separate entries, but obviously Warren wants to tie them together emotionally.

Number 4 and several others follow a similar pattern - two different subjects phrased as if one were the conclusion of the other.

No logic; much emotion. I think they have a winner!

Jan

If Al Franken can be elected then Elizabeth can be elected. Santa Claus is always the favorite.

I particularly liked...- "We believe that students are entitled to get an education without being crushed by debt." Its the liberal oligarchy in colleges and the worthless degrees they peddle causing the explosion of college costs.

"On 11" +1 for you Star. It is either-or.

I doubt you would agree with her interpretation of the commandments. They sound so innocent the way they are written but her way of advancing them is sinister and would be devastating to our economy, our freedoms and our way of life.

#2 - No one. But now we're sustaining billions on the earth. We just need to do that in an intelligent way.
#5 - Yes. #4 about min wage was on my disagree list.
#9 - Right now we have an unofficial policy of looking the other way while 15 million people live here underground. We need to admit it, stop it from getting worse, and deal with the situation. I have little faith in any particular politician to deal with the problem, but I can't stand how we just look the other way.
#10 - By my count number #10 is about immigration. Are you talking about the Hobby Lobby thing? That was the only item in the list I rejected categorically. I didn't understand any of the start/stop/finish part or the thing about single-owner corporations.
#11 - The gov't should not impose its religious ideas on people in any case. I don't make any exceptions.
I think one of us got off count on the enumeration, leading to confusion.

It seems that what she is pushing is a recipe for utopia, which has never worked in the history of mankind. Maybe she should read "Ameritopia" by Mark Levin. She could learn a few things from history.

johnf

Warren sounds a lot like Huey Long, the Louisiana populist who was a thorn in FDR's side. It's unnerving how badly such a large part of the American public truly wants a dictator, male or female, who can simply issue edicts that will supposedly "make things right." There's next to no chance that such a leader will preside over a theocracy, but a better than even chance we could be on the verge of a secular socialist totalitarian state.