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The Lack of Shame

Posted by Shrugger 12 years, 5 months ago to Politics
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The Lack of Shame

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This is a true story. It happened exactly as described.

It was around noon on election day, November 6, 2012. I was sitting in McDonalds. A group of old retired men were enthusiastically talking about the election... saying nothing of note, but with much ignorance and stupidity. I stayed out of it. An employee of McDonalds was clearing a nearby table and quietly said to me, "This has been going on all day... I can't wait for this election to be over."

A couple was waiting in line. They were a typical, mid-forties, white, middle class couple. They were listening to the old guys discussing the election and the state of the union in general.

One of the retired guys said something negative about "Obama-Care" and the middle-class white guy in line turned to him suddenly and said, "Oh yeah, well I'll have you know that if it wasn't for Obama's healthcare plan, I wouldn't have any health insurance right now."

This silenced the old guys. He continued, appearing to speak to the room in general, "Obama made it possible for me to cut the cost of my insurance by over 80%, so I voted for him again."

The entire room was silent. Nobody said a word. Before I knew what I was doing, I heard myself addressing him.

"You actually sound like you're proud of that", I said.

"You're damn right I am," he replied indignantly.

"In other words, you're proud of the fact that instead of paying for your health insurance yourself, you and Obama have ganged up on ME and have forced me, at the point of a gun, to pay for part of your health insurance. You're actually PROUD of the fact that you are mooching off of me and all those people working behind the counter in McDonald's... that you're part of a gang that is using the power of the government to FORCE us to pay for your healthcare. Instead of feeling ashamed... instead of bowing your head and cowering in front of all the people you are depending on to pay for your healthcare insurance... instead of meekly thanking them for the sacrifices they are being forced to make in order to benefit YOU... instead, you stand there claiming that you're PROUD! What do you have to be PROUD of? Are you proud of the fact that you're unable or unwilling to take care of yourself? Are you proud of the fact that you're stealing part of their wages for your own personal greed? No... shame is what you should feel. Disgrace... embarassment... and gratitude... along with a strong dose of remorse... because YOU can't or won't take care of yourself and so you joined a mob of others who can't or won't take care of themselves... and together you've figured out how to force US to take care of you. Shame on you."

Nobody said a word. The guy was stunned and his wife stood there mortified. The room was absolutely silent for a moment, then one of the retired guys started clapping... and within a few seconds, he was joined by another... then by someone across the restaurant... and pretty soon it sounded like the entire restaurant was applauding.

I had delivered my little sermon while still seated at my table. I remained seated and looked down at my meal... angry at myself for having lost my temper and butting in rather than minding my own damn business.

Within a minute or so, the room quieted down again and everyone went about their business, pretending nothing had happenned.

Then I heard the guy quietly say to the McDonald's counter person, "Can I change my order... I'd like that, to-go please."


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  • Posted by LetsShrug 12 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Because our corrupt government panders to the moocher so they can have yet even more power...vicious circle that is totally working (for them)... that's why.
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  • Posted by Host 12 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Keep burying your head in the sand. You find it hard to believe Obama's electorate is that stupid? Have you watched Obamaphone lady? "Keep Obama in president! Romney sucks!" Yes they really don't get it. They have never been taught and are not even interested in learning or challenging themselves. That is why they are where they are. And why we have a highly uninformed electorate.
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  • Posted by scottee 12 years, 5 months ago
    why can't we just have a correlation between minimal federal taxes collected from everyone...and money spent by Washington?
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  • Posted by $ TomB666 12 years, 5 months ago
    Brilliant! I wish I had your facility with words. Thank you.
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  • Posted by ObjectiveAnalyst 12 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Hello gblaze,

    Some of the provisions including non-denial for pre-existing conditions have been implemented. Perhaps this is what allowed the guy to have insurance… Many of the “good” parts have been implemented apparently to soften the blow for what is to come, namely the costs.

    http://www.healthcare.gov/law/timeline/f...

    Respectfully,
    O.A.
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  • Posted by $ jmlesniewski 12 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I don't agree. I think a lot of people aren't in tune to the consequences of their actions either because they've been shielded from them or they can't figure them out.
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  • Posted by WWJGD 12 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    True. It's called "incentives." Real People in the Real World DO respond to them.

    Whatever you subsidize, you get more of.
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    Posted by cswholes 12 years, 5 months ago
    This story is another stupid Republican lie. The guy hasn't saved 80% and the regs for adults don't even kick in until 2014. It is a pity that this fine work by Ayn Rand has been perverted by Republican looters.
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  • Posted by pat0003 12 years, 5 months ago
    You should be angry that you even had to say that! The attitude that you encountered isn't an isolated incident. People who get a hand out from the govenment never stop to think that someone is paying for it! I often tell my son there is no such thing as free! Someone is paying for it! More of us should be angry!
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  • Posted by DGriffing 12 years, 5 months ago
    The looters are in control with the reelection of the looter President. Now we'll see the effects of the mind on strike when the productive are increasingly forced to shoulder the looter's burden.
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  • Posted by jimslag 12 years, 5 months ago
    Hello, My moment of realization was when I first moved to my current town, I was driving an old 95 Ford pickup that I scraped up the money for. I was grocery shopping at one of the local stores and picking up a few items. The lady in front of me paid with food stamps and made a big deal of it. I only had 3 or 4 items, so I was right out the door of the store behind the lady. She climbed into a brand new Chevy Silverado pickup that there was no way I could afford, even though I was busting my butt working and paying off bills. I was just thinking that I was in the wrong business, when I woke up and thought to myself that I did NOT want to lower myself to that. So I continued along my path and worked myself out of debt. Yes, I pay taxes and YES, they are going to go up, but I have a plan that once everything is paid off or sold off, I am finding my Gulch and not continuing on the path that the Government is forcing us down.
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  • Posted by BenjaminGrimm 12 years, 5 months ago
    Bravo. I'm surprised he had the sense to back down and reassess his views. In my experience, most looters/moochers are so far into it that even such a well reasoned speech as yours either simply bounces off them, or more often, grossly inflates their sense of entitlement.
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  • Posted by LetsShrug 12 years, 5 months ago
    I have a friend that I shared this with and she's convinced that an LDS person said this same (or very close-minus current content: obamacare...) speech about 47 years ago.
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  • Posted by gblaze47 12 years, 5 months ago
    That's odd Obama-care hasn't even put into action yet, just collecting taxes to pay for it right now.
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  • Posted by kyates3 12 years, 5 months ago
    I'm currently a college student studying engineering. Yes, I got scholarships for school tuition, but I still work as much as I can to make it. During the summer I worked two jobs and literally never took a day off except a few days where I was ill. My dad died when I was young, and my mom worked three jobs to support her three children; my sister, my brother, and I. To moochers like that guy, I would like to give them a swift kick in the ass.
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  • Posted by ObjectiveAnalyst 12 years, 5 months ago
    Hello Shrugger,

    I haven’t been able to compose a sentence since Tuesday without expletives. Your story is the most inspirational thing I have read in a while. I am hoping to compose myself and contribute again soon. Thank you!

    Regards,
    O.A.
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  • Posted by LetsShrug 12 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Excellent information. Thank you. I have been thinking about a lot of things and what changes I can make in myself. There is much (well, not THAT much), but definitely some work to be done. I'm getting a game plan in order and I am excited to get started.
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  • Posted by Nietzsche 12 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    For America it was one tax too many and the martialing of the British regulars to Concord. For the French it was the food riots and storming of the Bastille. For the Russians, the Bolsheviks storming of the Czar's palace. For the Chinese the Boxer revolt. For each society events culminate to create a common sentiment producing its own leadership. This can be a messy process and usually comes without apparent warning. Look at the fall of Soviet Russia. It was there and all of a sudden it wasn't. All things considered, this is one of the most amazing social reformations of this generation. Communism gave way to a form of capitalism in a less than a year! Their society is still in transition and nowhere near as stable as our democracy and there are still many who look back with nostalgia to the caretaker Communist regime, but capitalism now drives the Russian economy. My point is that the cream will rise when given the opportunity. You cannot tell what the tipping point is until it happens and you are right, most will never get it. The 80/ 20 rule is a repeating theme throughout history. 20% of the people are responsible for 80% of the production. I do not believe that will ever change. That is why Utopian societies fail. From Brook Farm to the United Order, there are producers and moochers. The producers eventually get fed up and the commune disintegrates.
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  • Posted by LetsShrug 12 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I was just talking to my Mom about this....where is the tipping point. We agreed that most wouldn't "get it" even if the bottom completely falls out. Let it be their demise when there is no one left to take from that will LET them take. I have no doubt they will go on the hunt, but the prey will be ready.
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  • Posted by Nietzsche 12 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I believe that it is in our genes to scavenge when we can and hunt when we must. Instincts are natural, but values are learned. In my younger days, I spent some time in Europe and by chance managed to get acquainted with a gypsy troupe. They were entertainers and beggars. Some days the children would play accordion and dance, other days they would dress in rags and go out begging complete with affected limp and crutch. They travelled from city to city in four Mercedes sedans and daily converted their takings into gold Swiss Francs at the money changers. They were looked down upon by city locals, but took great personal pride in how they made a living. They felt no shame. They came from a long line of Gypsies and it was part of their culture.

    In the 50's, when Rand wrote Atlas Shrugged, most people would have been embarrassed to take Relief and even bums going door to door (we lived along a railroad track, so I met quite a few) always asked if you had some chores they could perform in order to earn a meal. I never experienced anyone who just asked for a handout until I visited New York in the mid 60s. Our present society is programmed to accept handouts as a matter of course. Not being forced to hunt, the moochers choose to scavenge.

    Perhaps the individual in your story felt shame, but I wonder. He was probably embarrassed, but that was more likely as a result of the crowd reaction. I doubt that he had any epiphany regarding personal responsibility. Atlas Shrugged is a novel set in a contrived fictional environment. With a wealthy patron, a force field and a secret valley, withdrawal may be an option. I do not have that option. If I refuse to pay my taxes, they will ultimately take my house. I did drop out of corporate America in disgust several years ago, but my old company has continued just fine without me and I experienced a severe drop in income. I am now self employed just scraping by. Saying "NO MORE!" is easy. Doing no more is bit more difficult.

    I suppose you could withdraw to one of those survivalist compounds in Idaho, if they would let you in, but there is no force field and the authorities know exactly where the compounds are. This is a complex society and if things ever do crumble, there will be deaths in the thousands by the end of the second month and millions by the end of a year. Our population has grown to a point where it cannot be sustained without the present technological and social structure.

    I do not believe that you have to change human nature in order to instill values. Some people will not change, but some will. We seen this throughout history time and again. Ultimately the tipping point will come when like minds acting in consort will affect a significant change or the society will fall. We have such an inertia in our present system, that I believe it will take a crisis to precipitate significant change. Perhaps it will be gas at $46.00 a gallon, perhaps that crisis will come when the entitlement checks start to bounce and the moochers realize there really is no more. Then they will hunt. I have no doubt about it.


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  • Posted by JerseyRunner 12 years, 5 months ago
    Shrugger,
    I'm clapping for you also. Thank you for addressing that moocher.
    But, I don't agree that he had no idea that he should feel shame rather than pride. He didn't just roll off the turnip truck. More likely, deep down, he knows he should be ashamed but he and his wife and decided to just hook into the gravy train. I think that many people make a conscious decision to mooch as much as possible. They see others mooching, some may feel that they've never gotten anything for free and think it's about damn time that they get theirs.
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