Christiana Figueres Climate Manifesto

Posted by Temlakos 7 years, 10 months ago to Politics
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Christiana Figueres, writing in Nature, delivered her manifesto--and declaration of emergency. Within three years, says she, if carbon emissions do not start to trend negative, the world will then be beyond all help. But--as usual--she gives no specifics on what people ought to do. That leaves us wide-open to any draconian "emergency measure" she cares to decree.


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  • Posted by ewv 7 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Is it yours? Stop making stupid insinuations. You lack objectivity.
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  • Posted by ewv 7 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    He's an envirochondriac and a welfare state socialist. He didn't say that he wants all of industrial civilization to collapse. The controls they want out of fear could very likely lead to that if pursued consistently, but understanding what they are after and why does not come from hysterical conservative blogs with "scary" out of context quotes and fictional descriptions.
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  • Posted by 7 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    That is the most damning thing of all. Maurice Strong reminds me very much of Wesley Mouch from Atlas Shrugged, or Ellsworth Monkton Toohey in The Fountainhead. In fact, I've seen a portrait of him, and it reminds me more than a little of the actor they found to portray him in the King Vidor film adaptation of that novel.

    (Not that I would have cast that particular actor to play EMT. I would have cast John Fiedler.)
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  • Posted by 7 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    You know, I have to say something, and I know I'm going to risk a sanction from administration for saying it. After all, I know we're not supposed to attack one another personally.

    I don't know you nearly well enough to do a thing like that. But I can judge the plausibility of anything somebody says.

    And I have to tell you: that is the lamest excuse for a faux pas that I have ever heard: musing about a plot for a potential novel? Funny: Maurice Strong does not have a bibilography in fiction. His bibliography is in collectivistic exposition.

    Tell you what: why don't you follow this search result:

    https://www.ixquick.com/do/search?que...

    and tell us what you think. You'll see that "musing about a plot for a potential novel" was the last thing on his mind.
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  • Posted by $ rainman0720 7 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Excellent point about the old ice core samples that indicated a warming period.

    AGW fanatics have done everything in their power to bury the Medieval warming period, which lasted from approx. 950-1250 AD.

    This 300 year cycle alone is enough to deep-six their entire argument.

    But lest we forget, they can't be bothered with facts.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 7 years, 10 months ago
    In the 70's we should be covered in ice by now,in the 90's we should be underwater, in the Millennium the water has all dried by now, and in the Millennial teens, probably all of the above by now. What saddens me is not so much that persons who know not and know not that they no not, but that there are a lot of persons who believe and follow them.
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  • Posted by Dobrien 7 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    From his web site and his address in Rio 1992

    We also need new ways of financing environment and development objectives. For example, emission permits that are tradeable internationally offer a means of making the most cost-effective use of funds devoted to pollution control while at the same time providing a non-budgetary means of effecting resource transfers. Taxes on polluting products or activities, like the C02 taxes now being levied or proposed by a number of countries, could also be devoted to financing of international environment and development measures. While none of these promising measures may be ripe for definitive action at this Conference, I would urge the Conference to put them on the priority agenda for the early post-Rio period.


    Poverty
    The devastating drought in southern Africa and the continuing plight of the victims of conflict and poverty in so many African countries are a grim reminder of the need for the world community to give special priority to the needs of Africa and to the least-developed countries everywhere. The tragedy is that poverty and hunger persist in a world never better able to eliminate them. This is surely a denial of the moral and ethical basis of our civilization as well as a threat to its survival.

    Is this your philosophy as well EWV?
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  • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 7 years, 10 months ago
    I guess that she never read a peer review article by a NASA scientist, (of all scientist, believe it or not) that when studying climates of other worlds and the parameters involved discovered that carbon and methane do not hold heat and therefore have little baring on climate other than carbon's value to living things which in return produces an atmosphere worth living in.

    One should ask her...how did man, plants and animals survive when the carbon count was 3000 or even 8000 ppb?...think maybe that's when the sequoia's of the north west grew?...maybe the giant Nephilms? or even Dinosaurs???

    I'm surprised that the left and the anti-lectuals haven't blamed obesity one have too much carbon in our atmosphere...remember, you heard that little ditty here first!..someone on the left will use it, I bet...
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  • Posted by Dobrien 7 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    ] Strong later said that growing up during the Depression radicalized him and that he considered himself to be "a socialist in ideology, a capitalist in methodology." He dropped out of high school at the age of 14 and did not go to college. Despite the lack of formal education, he was able to become CEO of many companies.
    Among them Maurice Strong was a director of Molten Metal Technology, Inc., an environmental technology company founded in 1989 that claimed to have innovative technology that could be used to recycle hazardous waste into reusable products. During the years 1992-1995, this innovation attracted approximately $25 million in research grants from the United States Department of Energy. Throughout the period of March 28, 1995 – October 18, 1996, (known as the “class period”), Molten Metal artificially inflated the price of their stock by materially misrepresenting the capability of its technology, namely through a series of public announcements. As of March 11, 1996 Strong owned approximately 40,000 shares of stock and another 262,000 shares were owned by a company of which Strong was Chairman.[21] The company filed for bankruptcy and the case was settled for $11.8 million, without a ruling of wrongdoing.[22]
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  • Posted by 7 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    All right, then, suppose you explain it.

    Are you trying to make the case that the level of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere is a Tragedy of the Commons on a grand scale?

    Or just what case are you trying to make?
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  • Posted by ewv 7 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Understanding him takes more than 'scary quotes' from searching that turns up out of context and unsourced quotes and opinion on conservative sites.
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  • Posted by ewv 7 years, 10 months ago
    Christiana Figueres' collectivism: "We are going to have to decided between zero and sum. We're going to have to decide between zero benefit for all or living life as the sum of all of us." 14:26 in a speech about her role as head of negotiations for the Paris agreement https://www.ted.com/talks/christiana_...

    But her "manifesto" was not the fictional description and "list of regulations" in the first third of the conservative blog linked to at the top of this thread.
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  • Posted by fosterj717 7 years, 10 months ago
    This is actually a redux of Al Gore's admonition giving the original (exact same warning as this woman) warning saying exactly the same thing! Hucksters must keep fanning the flames of "man-made" Global Warming (yes! they are back to that sad refrain) - when in reality, it is climate change!

    These people ignore simple scientific truths of what is taking place in the solar system itself. Why is the temperature of the sun drastically falling (a temperature hole of immense size has just manifested itself)? What impact has that or will that have on the climates of all planets in our solar system?

    Why has there been measurable climate change (and global warming) on earth (and 3 of its sister planetary neighbors)?

    Why did the Russian and French scientific team working in the antarctic discover from 10,000 year old ice core samples that it was earth warming that preceded the increase of Carbon Dioxide? This turns the argument (and conventional wisdom) of the "Global Warming" industry on its head and totally discredits the theory that trillions of dollars are currently being spent on!

    If Science is refuted (the Man-made Global Warming cabal), then stupidity will have reigned supreme. In closing, the admonition to "follow the money" is (or at least should be) the prudent and intelligent (and honest) way to be followed!

    The only emergency measures should be a real scientific debate on the entire issue of "Climate Change" that has cyclically been taking place for almost 4 billion years now! For what its worth...
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  • Posted by 7 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    "They didn't want to live; they wanted him to die." From Atlas Shrugged, Part III, Chapter IX: "The Generator."
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  • Posted by mccannon01 7 years, 10 months ago
    All the more urgency that Christiana and all those who believe in her bilge should quickly kill themselves to remove their carbon footprint from the planet. If they are truly responsible in such an emergency effort, then they will select a venue where the planet can recycle their remains as though they never were.

    I suspect, however, they really want to kill all of us first.
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  • Posted by 7 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Hoooo, boy. If you could scare up a supporting link for that quote, you would advance the cause of liberty immensely. We have more at stake than a personality cult based on Christiana Figueres, Rajendra Pachauri, or anyone else. A quote like this shows the very high prevalence of the disease of "we don't want to live; we want you to die" collectivism.
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  • Posted by Dobrien 7 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    ”Isn’t the only hope for the planet that the industrialized civilizations collapse? Isn’t it our responsibility to bring that about?”
    Maurice Strong,
    Founder of the UN Environmental Fund
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  • Posted by freedomforall 7 years, 10 months ago
    Whose resources pay her salary and others trying to destroy free markets and individual liberty?
    When do we stop supporting our enemies' efforts to enslave us?
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