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The real problem with America: Ignorance

Posted by $ blarman 7 years, 7 months ago to Culture
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We are a culture of self-absorbed imbeciles. Our school systems are both ineffective at actual teaching and teaching the wrong things. And so the media isn't challenged when they propagandize everything.

The only solution to America's woes: true education about our rights and basic economics.


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  • Posted by CaptainKirk 7 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    And now some LOCAL Communities are LETTING ILLEGAL VOTE in local elections...

    Coming Soon: Illegals will have a right to vote in FEDERAL ELECTIONS... Sponsored by Soros...
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  • Posted by CaptainKirk 7 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I was at Lowes, and 2 "young ladies" were talking about the haves and the have nots... Imagine a little head shaking going on...
    I casually mentioned: Where I grew up, I learned that the division was usually "Those who worked hard to educate themselves, and those who have not... That their income was usually more tied to that, than anything else".

    OMG. The one looked at me and said "I went to High School!" Like that was an education she worked hard for. I said "See!" and went on my way.

    smh
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  • Posted by CaptainKirk 7 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    We call it communist core, because it promotes ONE path (government chosen) to get to the right answer.
    TO me. assuming there is ONLY 1 way to do anything is QUITE a communist concept.
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  • Posted by ewv 7 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    There are good reasons to be concerned about candidates because their policies and ideology often are different enough to matter. But it depends on having proper standards by which to evaluate them. Most of the histrionics we see over political candidates is emotional attachment to personality and slogans.
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  • Posted by ewv 7 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    There are many reasons to object to Federally imposed 'common core' standards in education, but it is not "communist".
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  • Posted by ewv 7 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    "Hillsdale, as you might know, was established exclusively, to teach the constitution and our founding."

    Hillsdale was founded in 1844 by Babtists as a religious liberal arts college, not "exclusively, to teach the constitution and our founding". Today it emphasizes conservative and religious interpretations of history, culture and politics. "Hillsdale is still considered a Christian institution, with students expected to follow moral tenets of Christianity as commonly understood in the Christian tradition." http://www.wikiwand.com/en/Hillsdale_...
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  • Posted by Stormi 7 years, 7 months ago
    The US IQ id dropping. Teacher and media IQ is lower than a few years ago, yet both professions are sure they know all the answers. DiCaprio thinks he is a judge of what is science, yet never went to college - he believes his own press releases obviously. Athletes now think they should be telling everyone how this country should be, yet they can't stay off drugs and away from loose women. They expect people to make their sport secondary to what they feel we should hear, yet where is their IQ? High school graduates now don't understand economics nor history, and can't speak proper English. Hey ball players, the word is "YOU", BIR pronounced "CHEW" - obviously you don't know our government from a totalitarian one either. I am so sick of McD employees, who once the register tells them how much change, are unable to count it out! All these folk think they deserve more respect, and want to hold us captive until we hear their blathering. This ongoing moronic talking point spounting over global warming, shows what stupid sheep we now have, who never studied science. How can any of them form values if they don't even know what they are? Ayn Rand should be required reading for a HS diploma. We have no ability to reason as a nation of fools stake to the streets.
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  • Posted by ewv 7 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    What do you mean by the "Hegelian model" of education? Did you mean John Dewey and Progressive education?
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  • Posted by fosterj717 7 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    There you go! Teach dogmatic "junk" science (but make sure that has been taught for at least 12 years, then you will get you intellectually challenged, mind-numbed snowflakes whose only interests are where they can hide and not have to face sad Truths! An educational morass to be sure! Thank you Hegel and the Progressive left for the gift that keeps giving! Brainwashing (whereas most only need a light rinse these days......)!
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  • Posted by fosterj717 7 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    And, it is becoming all dogma with little if any "Critical Thinking".....That is how you keep the ignorant masses fat, dumb and happy!
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  • Posted by Herb7734 7 years, 7 months ago
    This is why I advocate that all people in public office, elected or appointed, pass a test similar to the one given to new citizens before they can take office or get hired. Since they should already know the material, it shouldn't be much of a task to pass with at least an 80%.
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  • Posted by Flootus5 7 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    True. I took American History as one of the "Liberal Arts" electives required to get a BS degree in Geology. University of New Hampshire in the mid-70's. For one of the tests, the prof required the students to memorize the Declaration of Independence word for word and be able to write it down at test time without any references. And then there was all the discussion about its meaning. Pretty cool. I would hate to see what its like these days. All the alumni mailings I get from UNH is full of climate change research, sustainability nonsense, etc.
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  • Posted by DrZarkov99 7 years, 7 months ago
    Ignorance is ingrained when children are taught what to think instead of how to think. Now in my 70s, I feel very fortunate to have had the experience of excellent teachers through most of my education. They promoted the idea of asking "why" when presented with certain historic events, in an effort to get us to understand the reasoning and motives behind decisions and choices.

    I was encouraged to read the Federalist and Anti-Federalist papers to better understand the Constitution (got extra credit for that) as one example. You won't find a teacher today that does that, sadly.

    Even in 1950s Georgia, in a white segregated system, I got extra credit for studying the lives of Frederick Douglass, Booker T. Washington, and George Washington Carver, which I'm sure is a surprise to some.

    Something is definitely wrong with our current education system, and it isn't the kids.
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  • Posted by fosterj717 7 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Unfortunately, that is contrary to reality. 40 years ago even though the "Hegelian" model was already deployed, there was still teaching being done in civics and history which exposed us to the Constitution and Federalism, even in Public Education.

    That is no longer the case, instead it is being touted as something created by old, dead, white men! This unfortunately is the message that several generations of young minds have been over-exposed to. Self hating is now the goal rather than anything honest and uplifting.

    The dumbing down of America is part of the scam so that we are just another cog in the Global machine. If we are considered better than the average, then the average will always be just that. The Global Elite must destroy that concept of America so, what better way then to make our entire population "stupid" by teaching the garbage that is passing for a National Curricula?

    It has been a long downhill slide teaching that which the left to have taught. Generation of over degree and woefully under educated citizens. One size fits all for corporate ignorance! Truth be told......
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  • Posted by fosterj717 7 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Unfortunately, most Americans are too ill-informed to realize that Hillsdale and what it offers even exists.

    I think the Academic Elite want to keep it that way otherwise how can they influence the Snowflakes and other minds made of mush.

    Antifas, Snowflakes and safe spaces, all in opposition to the First Amendment (Free Speech, etc.)......Even Hillsdale can't overcome Institutional Stupidity!
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  • Posted by CaptainKirk 7 years, 7 months ago
    This is why they are FIGHTING Home Schooling so much. Communism Core REQUIRED to get into college is the next step.
    You either know DOGMA or you can't claim to be educated...
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  • Posted by $ 7 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Agreed. I have thoroughly enjoyed the three courses I have finished and I'm working on a fourth now. I send them money so I can get the course materials in book form - well worth it and cheaper than other college textbooks!
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 7 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    "Objectivism claims that people are born tabula rasa but it is obvious that personality and "emotional set points" are deeper than conceptual awareness."
    I think of kids as growing into their own people, no matter what we do, as long as we do not abuse them. Telling them the world is so dangerous that they must be in line-of-sight of adults at all moments because a boogy man my spirit them away ("traffic" them, which sounds like an illegal treat like cocaine) borders on abuse.

    I don't want to be one of those grumpy old men. I am open to this just being the reaction of a middle-aged techie dad and middle-aged attorney mom to the jitters of 30 y/o at-home parents who've never been in the business world or been in charge of something. I try to tell myself that and then just ignore and focus on my own family, minding my own business. It's not always easy because at-home parents run the parent-teacher org. A group of then can spend all day fund-raising an amount equal to one hour of my wife's billable time and then they really accomplished something. And I don't want to begrudge them or seem like I'm blowing my horn about making money. Those young parents are full of youthful and energy, and we ought to all just do what we like in life. I sometimes start to sound like a grumpy old man, though, when I think they're borderline-abusing kids with their hovering. I want them to sit and drink Tab and enjoy their lives as housewives did a generation ago.
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 7 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    "my experience is that kids (some kidst) obey them without accepting them."
    I hope you're right. I see them internalizing the messages that the world is a very dangerous and scary place; you must stay close to an authority at all time; just be careful and do not do anything.
    I hope I'm wrong. I've never paid attention to kids growing up before now.
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 7 years, 7 months ago
    Said it before and I'm saying it again~
    Having previously vaguely suspected as much, I fully realized how ignorant too many Americans are when I started to watch Watter's World before O'Riley got canned.
    There were times when it became too painful for old dino to watch and I'd start channel surfing.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Thmou...
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  • Posted by $ MikeMarotta 7 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    When our daughter (now 37) came to visit this summer, she told us how far she actually went on her bike when she was eight.

    As much as I would like to take credit for following the child-raising theories of Ayn Rand, Selene was always her own person. Objectivism claims that people are born tabula rasa but it is obvious that personality and "emotional set points" are deeper than conceptual awareness.

    As annoying as school rules are, my experience is that kids (some kidst) obey them without accepting them.
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