Better, but still why a permit at all?

The way it should be. Individuals defending themselves. Police are to clean up afterwords, not prevent. Prevention costs to dam much unless we the people do it on our own.

Only if one avoids the QRM...

73's...

The laws for concealed carry vary widely from state to state. Some states are "shall issue", meaning that the government has to issue you a permit unless they can prove you are a threat (burden of proof on State). Some states don't require any kind of permit (like Vermont). Some states are "may issue" where law enforcement has the right to refuse a license if they deem you to be a hazard (burden of proof on Citizen).

Also, many states have reciprocal agreements with other states, which is why CC permits from Florida and Utah are in such high demand. Wisconsin is one of the states with no reciprocity agreements. Illinois was just recently forced to rewrite their CC laws, and DC just had theirs struck down so that anyone with a CC permit is now legal in DC!

I don't know if it was a post here or not but a similar thing happened a couple of weeks ago in PA in a hospital. A psychiatrist, against hospital policy, was carrying a firearm and shot a patient after the patient came in with a gun and started shooting at people. Not far from where I live.

http://articles.philly.com/2014-07-26/ne...

Not true in PA. I just got mine last week. The "recommend" a course but PA is a "shall issue" state so unless you are a felon or some other obvious disqualifier - they issue you a permit. Training course or not.

I might wonder "Am I gonna hafta do a Mozambique here?"

I want a one-shot STOP - sometimes bad guys die from those. and, the definition of "bad guy" being what it is, I'm OK with that.

found you on qrz.com -- Hi There!!! -- j

Hear, Hear. +1

Niko, wonderful. I hope I'm around to wish you a happy 50th...

Thank you, Larry!
I do feel welcome in both. My, then new, bride and I arrived in New York harbor in January 1967. So, I can proudly say that I have been an American citizen, by now, for more then half of my life. Even though that is only more than 50% of time, I feel 100% American. And, if I am lucky enough and live another two years, we will celebrate our 50th anniversary. Half a century! Who would have guessed?
Thank you, again.
Niko

For "sane", read "rational". The insane is the irrational. I was thinking philosophically, not necessary legally.

Probably even a few of the two-legged kind.

Maritimus - Thank you and welcome to your/our home. I lived in West Germany and had the opportunity to visit Yugoslavia while I was there. We share a common ancestry too since my great, grandfather immigrated in 1892 from a small farming community in what is now Yugoslavia. The name of that town has been lost in the family history, but I enjoyed my short visit and drew a bit closer to my ancestor.

Welcome to the gulch too.
Larry

Thank you Stargeezer!
I do not think I have ever written a comment in Galt's Gulch without at least one spelling error. I lived for my first 27 years in Yugoslavia. 30 characters in the alphabet, covering every sound in the language. If you hear it, you know how to spell it. Than I lived and worked in Italy for four years. With just a few simple rules, you know how to spell and can pronounce correctly what you read. At age 31 I immigrated (legally!!) and even though I started learning English when I was 13, never quite got used to the fact the "enough" sounds "inaf" and an infinite supply of such puzzles.
I learned long time ago, from some very good people, the I am responsible for the message received, not just for the message sent. I think that it is a great advice. If you want to hide what you are saying, use encryption. Thanks, again.

The only way to cure a criminal caught in a criminal act is by administering a supersonic lead pill.

The customer did the right thing I can hope I would have the guts to become the hero he did.

Or at the very least they end up able to reason. The rest follows.

Sorry, I wasn't sure. Of course, crime has nothing to do with gun control or, rather, people control. The ones making the laws are well protected from crime - they have nothing to worry about except, of course, the citizens that may one day make them accountable for their crimes. So, really, it is just a form of self-protection, for the politicians, that is.

yessir, I have never met a ham whom I didn't like.
somehow, the combination of science and emergency
service seem to help folks stay true!!! -- j

When I get to know somebodies real name and know they are a good guy, I take a look on http://qsl.com. Guess what I find, more often than not?

:)