No one questions that the climate changes. The thing that is questioned are the mechanics of those changes and the veracity of the claims of those arguing humans are ruining the planet when they are more often manipulating the data or outright lying for money.

Sure the climate changes. But exactly how it does so and to what effect Man is responsible is very much in question. What is not in question is that those pushing the global warming hysteria are fighting the science - not confirming it. From the falsification of records at East Anglia to the wildly inaccurate models for the past twenty years, there is literally nothing on which advocates can stand.

What we should recognize is that Nature is pretty doggone resilient and does a pretty good job compensating for whatever man does. The argument that man controls this planet has too much hubris and not enough reality for me to take seriously.

Well said indeed!

Of course that would automatically make a lot of Americans - especially Democrats - terrorists! Which if I think about it isn't far from the truth!

Now they need to put back Socialism as a national security threat

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'You can't consume what you can't produce'

This completely applies to nature. Nature is the producer here and man is the lowest form of moocher. One who doesn't even entirely comprehend the adverse effects of his actions. Man has consumed what the nature has produced. Not realising that the rate of production by nature is much lower than the rate of consumption by man. The untoward and unthought of acts of mooching by men since centuries are finally showing their results. Climate change is a real threat. Very real.

The problem with the society is, people with the knowledge to make amends or at least slow down the rate of deterioration are not the ones with the power to affect public policy. A world where the decision making power does not lie with the people who comprehend the situation, the need and urgency of action, is bound to fall and crumble.

None of us might be able to witness that happening. But all of us must realise that this is our legacy, our footprint that will be left behind.

Obama was laying down a path for Hillary to grab even more control over private industry. With climate change part of a threat to national security, it's easy to invoke emergency Executive powers and enact emission restrictions that Congress and the judiciary can't rescind. We were in real danger of a fascist state.

It's kind of fun, as we were watching this show the other night about the people diving these inundated sites in the Caribbean, Mediterranean, and off the coast. Wonder how political those rising sea waters were as well... Probably plenty back then saying Climate Change wasn't real as the sea level rose...

Sorry,I don't believe in dogma or politician worship making the evidentiary truth non-existent.. The climate IS changing, and if you don't acknowledge it's reality, it's like not acknowledging that being hit multiple times in the cranium with a baseball bat might cause your brains to leak out of your skull.

Yeah, climate change is not a national security threat.
The sun may at times be that, but I wouldn't issue a declaration of war. Uh, whatever those declarations are for, since no one has any use for those things anymore.
When O was the great and powerful, he said climate change was the greatest national security threat, but that's what me dino considered him to be for 8 long years.
Me dino does not know at what level O the Deep State great and powerful should be enumerated at. Maybe it's where George Soros should be numbered.

... and if you weren't poor when he started, he could get you there ...

fantastic how he recognized that the climate was not going to attack the usa, Russia maybe but us not a chance.

Climate change politics is just another method for bringing producers down to the level of the moochers. Once you addict the rabble to mooching, you have them under your control. Obama was just a poor man's Mr. Thompson.

Thanks Freedom, you too!
This years Christmas card to the gulch has been posted...and my version of: Twas the night before Christmas.

There's a lot more I wish would do thant.

To you as well Freedomforall. My mouth is watering thinking of the cookies I will consume with glee at my sisters house next Saturday.
Thanks

Which reminds me, Merry Christmas, y'all.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDCme...

Yup.

That's "ANTI" intelligence agencies,..Dob. In fact...they all fall into that category.

Drowning in the sewer of their own creation.

May the Royal House of Bush sink from sight far beneath the foul muck of the swamp~never to be seen again.

I certainly think Reagan had many positives. After being shot his capacity was diminished and continued to deteriorate.Much of his reign was heavily influenced by his VP and GW's cabal of trilateral , CFR, Bilderberg group scum.
Trump is not in thier camp. GHW Bush couldn't interfere with any comments about Obama's eight year reign of destroying America. But before one year into This admin he can't help but criticize Trump.

Sadly we have been driven down the road to statism for many decades. Trump has been attacked by the govt establishment , the deep state intelligence, The media and the educational institutions. He needs to fire Sessions and get at the criminal collusion the has been unmasked.

Except for climate change, (COLD/not warm) dangers for "growing food" but, then again, we don't want the national security idiots involved with that!

Old Dino really liked Reagan, but he did not give the lowdown lamestream media the disrespect they fully deserve.
To be fair, we did not even have cell phones back then. But would Reagan get into Trumpian Tweeting? Somehow I don't think so.

Not a lot of competition, unfortunately;^) But this is a good step in the right direction.