Second you on Crichton.....bought and read some years ago...........excellent piece of work......rational!

Being in the UN is an act of masochism for a people that loves liberty. Obi-wan described it well, "a wretched hive of scum and villainy", although the Dark Center is even worse so it isn't surprising that they keep wasting our money at the UN.

Money talks too. Way to go, Nicki!

See my new post on
Nicki Haley's tongue lashing to the uN
Part of the" uNcivil war"
https://youtu.be/KVTQefA77Ys

You remind me of something Rush said on the radio today while I was driving to Concord to get my usual Friday catfish dinner.
Rush said that while The Donald keeps the Drive-By Media and the rest of Libtard World distracted with his Tweets, he is hidden away in the White House quietly "brick by brick dismantling" all the Obamanation that King Barry built.
Note: Me dino just told you what Rush said in my own words, more of less.

Yes the greatest national security threat. No one can defeat the US from outside it has to be done from the inside. I anxiously await the offensive in the "uncivil war ". I think Pres.Trump has somethings up his sleeve.

Trump is anti the swampish establishment. At this point it seems that the people who criticize Trump are just swamp creatures protecting their turf.

They came together for this tax bill because they all want to loot a bigger economy. For me, I will cut back working if taxes are lowered, and NOT expand my spending

Reagan expanded government spending and debt a LOT, both in CA and as President. He did some good things and talked a good game, but in the end wasnt he just another statist?

I am definitely NOT interested in sacrificing now for the sake of future generations. I dont believe we can affect the climate that much anyway, If there is global heating or cooling like has happened many times in the past, its going to happen anyway. If you live too close to a coast that might be affected, you have 50 years to move to another place.

This blaman chap, as we say here,
he has done his homework.

One organism's by-products are another organism's inputs. Plants love the extra CO2 and their growth around the globe has been demonstrably measured in positive terms in farm production. The other gases you mention are frequently produced by volcanoes in far greater volume and frequency than anything produced by man, so again your argument there is unpersuasive.

CO2 is a cooling gas, however - not a warming one. Its effect due to a negligible concentration in the atmosphere is still a subject of much debate. The more credible heat trapping gas is actually water vapor. What also gets missed in much of climate change ties more closely to things called Maunder Minimums (others on the Board here are far more knowledgeable - there are some great investigative pieces if you do a quick search). These are solar cycles and far more closely align with temperature phenomenon than gas levels in the atmosphere. Indeed, since ALL energy on earth came from the Sun at one point, it seems a far more illustrative solution to take a look at the Sun first and foremost as the source of climate, which unfortunately most of the global warming crowd fails to do.

PS - the polar ice caps aren't melting in aggregate. What is being melted off one is accumulating - and then some - on the other, with a net effect in that the ice caps (in aggregate) are actually growing - not shrinking. There are also more polar bears now than there were 30 years ago - another common but demonstrably false myth spouted by the global warming fanatics.

"There is no argument whether it is majorly caused by the ever increasing human population."

Yes, there is. In fact, our earth hasn't warmed at all in twenty years - despite Al Gore's dire predictions that the US West Coast would be under water by 2010. And this despite unprecedented growth in human population and industry.

Now I'm not going to argue that humans are infallible and we aren't doing anything to ruin the planet. One look at Hudson Bay or the Yangtze River in China can tell you otherwise. I'm just saying that I'm not buying the global warming hysteria because it is all based on junk science and charlatanism from a bunch of ideologues who call themselves scientists yet won't look at the actual evidence. And what is their proposal? Its basically to kill off people and destroy industry "for the good of the planet". And they get paid government grants to make it sound like it will be the end of the world if we don't allow government to tax us to death - literally.

For a really good read, try Michael Crichton's State of Fear. What many don't know is that when Crichton started out to write the book, it was going to be along all the same lines you've just given: that humankind was destroying the earth and bringing on an apocalypse. But Crichton always puts a tremendous amount of research into his books (you can see it on the first page of each chapter) and what he found was that the evidence actually contradicted the narrative of catastrophic, human-induced climate change. Crichton was forced to completely re-write his book to match the evidence.

There's lots more, but that's all I'm going to post for the moment.

Philosophical abstracts don't cut it for me. As stated in the Dragnet TV series by Sgt Friday: "Just the facts mam, just the facts." I can prove the climate changes daily. What I can't prove is what is going to happen one hundred years from now - its simply speculation. It became crystal clear to me when Al Gore invented the "carbon credits" that the driving agenda was money and control.
No one wants pollution. Getting rid of the lead in paint and gasoline was a good thing. I fully support recycling. My SUV now gets about 20 mpg. My first SUV got about 8 mpg. Yes, on the whole we are making progress. But I get really tired of the doomsday people stating: "there is evidence the earth is warming." I am from Missouri - show me.

"Drunk on power" sums up libtards who dream of ruling from the top of a socialist heap of dumbed-down mind-numbed slaves.

Racism is a business to them. They derive their money and power, at least up to recently, from using the race card. They are, obviously, people who don't care about the real consequences to individuals because they will not let the race issue die a natural death (it would have been mostly gone in the '70's and '80's). THEIR racism is why our inner cities are war zones. And, they don't care. Because THEY are racists and narcissistic megalomaniacs who are drunk on the power deceiving people gives them.

I didn't fully appreciate Reagan when he was in office. I even served under him in the Navy. However, I didn't really pay attention to politics until I had a family and started seeing how much they affected us. But, I've always known that what the left was peddling was just more lies and the first time I was able to vote, I voted against Carter. I didn't vote again for years. Probably against the rapist! LOL.

The planet was here long before man, and will be here long after.

I wish these deranged dems could SEE that their view means killing people helps the planet. And some socialist is going to take them up on that offer...

Washington is (or should be) for real. Why bother spending time and money on a fiction?

And what does one Pinatubo or Chichinall do?

Carter never met a dictator he didn't like. Whatever he opposes--support and vice versa.

Me dino agrees, having lived through that time as a young adult.
At least Reagan kept the malaise wrought by Jimmy Carter down to four years.
Carter and even Slick Willie lacked the skin pigment to get away with all the crap Obama pulled.
But I do vividly recall a smiling Carter stating that those who disagreed with Obama's policies had a racist motive.
That still turns my stomach.

I apologize for the lack of punctuation marks at places

I, certainly, would be okay with that.

Reagan was perfect for his time. A man who should be revered and loved for who he was and what he did in his time in history. He did not have the benefit of seeing the damage the Democrats could do and would do once unleashed and given the license Obama had.

You see, man is good at producing one thing, which is waste, a by-product of his consumption. A lot of the said waste does not decompose readily and accumulates. Most of the problems climate faces are due to the attempts made at disposing of this waste. Certain methods of disposal, vehicular emissions and industrial emissions(all waste products) lead to an increase in the green house gases ( COx, NOx, SOx, polyhalocarbons, etc) . Now, these gases have existed on earth since the origin of life and are responsible for absorbing some heat from the sun rays before they are reflected back, so as to keep the earth warm. The only reason life can be supported on the planet.
What humans have done is, contributed to an increase in their proportion. Obviously this would increase the overall temperature of the planet. This rise in temperature is termed as the global warming and is responsible for the melting of polar ice caps. There is no argument whether it is majorly caused by the ever increasing human population. The fact that certain someone use the 'global warming' jargon to extort money, or the lack of importance given to the scientific reports proving that our actions have lead to the climate change is 'politics' and irrelevant.

We are in an inter-glacial period. It gets warmer ice melts and the sea level rises. As you point out there are sites inundated in other parts of the world. Obviously not the result of the industrial age and carbon dioxide.

No one doubts that the climate changes. What is doubted is the specific theories as to what will happen as an increase in carbon dioxide.

Certainly in the realm of food, what man consumes is not completely produced by nature. Man's intellect and effort has modified naturally occurring foods until they are vastly more effective as food. Very few of the things we eat are not changed by the will of man.

You speak of the "rate of deterioration". There is no deterioration in the ability to sustain life. We have the highest world standard of living in history -- and it gets better every year. The idea that there is a deterioration that must be fought is an effort to seize control over production to stop it.

And, if the maunder minimum doesn't come in the next decade and cause global cooling and the globe gets warming, it will generally be good. Historically people do well in times of warming and poorly in times of cooling.