The project X today. But even worse than Ayn Rand professed

Posted by Dobrien 8 years, 4 months ago to Science
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Just today again in the gulch . After commenting on the Geoengineering that has been going on for more than a decade a response stated that it is contrails not Chemtrails. People need to wake up to the fact that our taxpayer dollars are funding a systematic poisoning of everyone and every living thing as nano particles of heavy metals are sprayed over head. Project X also was a type of the perversion of science by unscrupulous and power-hungry government authorities, and was also a metaphor for the unintended consequences of the use of taxpayer's money to fund scientific research.
What can we do to stop this evil madness.
After watching this young woman who is a true HERO and are not furious at the enablers ,
well then maybe heaven will help you.



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  • Posted by chad 8 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Sky writing is usually done with smoke so that it can be turned off and on. As far as contrails being cut off at 'exact moments' that can be caused by a change in the atmospheric conditions that create the contrails or the aircraft simply descending to an altitude that would not be conducive to its formation. An observer on the ground would not detect this variation. To assume that because it is something you cannot explain leaves only one alternative explanation if a poor scientific method.
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  • Posted by chad 8 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I did watch her presentation. When someone asks you to believe them and gives you the background for why they wouldn't lie of course you have no idea if any of that is true. The fact that she gave up her career does not mean that she isn't mistaken or misleading you.
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  • Posted by DrZarkov99 8 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Note the first part of my comment above. The military definitely uses metal oxides in their jet fuels, and those particulates will collect more moisture that will form a more long lasting ice cloud. Neither the military nor the commercial aviation fuels also haven't been restricted to sulfur content, like the surface diesel transport systems, so there are undoubtedly sulfur elements to the jet combustion stream as well, ergo "chemtrails," as an incidental byproduct, but not with intent to geoengineer.

    In fact, I have no doubt the military have been sweating bullets about an administration deciding they have to clean up their aviation fuels. That's why they're conducting biofuel tests, to be prepared to move to a cleaner fuel. There's also a tactical incentive, since lack of a persistent contrail makes an aircraft harder to spot. The B-2 bomber rarely leaves any trail at all, with the exhaust spread out to cool fast before any ice has a chance to form. It's part of the stealth technology.
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  • Posted by $ pixelate 8 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I have been thinking along the same lines ...
    If the World is ruled by the top 1% of 1% of 1% -- that would be 1 in a million ... which amounts to a bit over 7,000 people. And as you indicate -- they are not living in caves -- nor would they want to.
    I think that the Rulers are already in control of The People by keeping them dumbed-down, fat, happy and distracted. The modern peasants are perfectly content with the velvet-covered bars of their cage so long as they get their Popeye's Chicken and Dancing with the Stars.

    I actually like Popeye's Chicken ... so call me an Enlightened Peasant.
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  • Posted by lrshultis 8 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    What climate problem? Please specify in what way the changing climates around the world have been problems other than natural local weather events. There is no "the climate" change for the Earth because there is no "the weather" for the Earth.
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  • Posted by 8 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I respect you from your past comments.
    But please watch the sky . For several decades
    I have lived 1 1/2 miles from a major intl.airport I watch the planes a contrail dissipates Chemtrails spread I have watched two plane at the same time
    One with contrails one with Chemtrails at high altitudes, a big difference. I can see the difference.
    Chemtrails last for over an hour.
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  • Posted by editormichael 8 years, 4 months ago
    Only one comment for now: HOW does an obnoxious moron like Colbert get to be a media bigshot, making millions of dollars, while displaying no talent except sarcasm ... and, yes, stupidity?
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  • Posted by 8 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    You deny reality. These contrails are never from commercial aircraft. Watch the video before you
    Make your preconceived notion.
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  • Posted by $ Radio_Randy 8 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I must respond, in reference to your explanation of contrails. While I wholly agree with the natural formation of such trails, there have been numerous accounts of local military flights where the trails were akin to "sky writing". In fact, a local Air Force pilot was recently grounded for sky writing the depiction of a male organ, over the skies of the Okanogan valley, in Washington state
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    Additionally, I have photos of such skywriting by military pilots that could not possibly have been natural, due to the trails being started and cut off at exact moments in the flights.

    While I may not entirely buy into the conspiracy theory of pesticide industries or our government deliberately spraying us, I can't discount the fact that all contrails are not naturally formed.
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  • Posted by Stormi 8 years, 4 months ago
    If it were just a conspiracy, i would not tie into and be part of so many other government programs. We know Echelon existed, Brits caught Clinton spying on them. We know that HAMP uses some of the same technology as Chemtrails, only to move hurricanes. Obama asked them to move a hurricane inland. We know that HAARP started as a weather control installation, but with always the idea of going to mind control, as Tesla envisioned. We know about radio waves affecting the group think of the masses. We know that HAARP was aimed at several school shooting sites over the years, as meteorologist tracked it. In the 70s, I was in a lab with a former Army guy, who had quit the Army because he could not stand what they were doing, dumping psychotropic type drugs in the water supply, on Indian reservations and recording reactions of unsuspecting Indians. We know that Congress is aware of HAARP, as I have seen committee meetings discuss our and other country's installations, on TV. Today, conspiracy theories are more truth and the talking points of mainstream media are the fantasy.
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  • Posted by LibertyBelle 8 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    This is what makes me wonder somewhat about the people who want to be able to lock people up more easily, or take away their gun rights just because somebody else (possibly a family member) says so---or maybe has a grudge?--I guess maybe a court hearing would be necessary in those cases, though. It shouldn't be too easy to do.
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  • Posted by LibertyBelle 8 years, 4 months ago
    Very disturbing. Perhaps she is right. I don't know at this point. But if she is, I guess that stuff will have to be stopped. (With enough protest).
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  • Posted by term2 8 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I dont think its a conspirary either. If anything its just that the government doesnt care about the side effects of what it does- EVER
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  • Posted by DrZarkov99 8 years, 4 months ago
    The various metals she lists have been commonly used by the U.S. military as additives to fuel, primarily for better performance, range, and resisting evaporation in hot climates, or freezing at high altitude. The exact compound makeup is classified, and she should have been told it was a need to know. The geoengineering idea doesn't wash. I used to be part of a team involved in "weather war" studies, where we were examining the possibility of turning the weather into a kind of weapon, and we realized rather quickly that the amount of material needed to have even a limited local effect was prohibitively high. She does have a point that only a limited list of metals are now considered pollutants, and should be the subject of further study. Even a conspiracy theory can sometimes be partially right.
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  • Posted by Solver 8 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Most of us know that government, a monopoly of force, is a necessary evil. Although too many governments cultivate way too much unnecessary evil. Solution: keep the goverment as small as possible. Way way easier said than done. All those promises of free stuff is just so enticing to the uneducated.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 8 years, 4 months ago
    Damn.
    Is there no direction in which a citizen can turn that doesn't contain some evil event coming from Washington?
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  • Posted by MrSmiggles 8 years, 4 months ago
    Contrail conspiracy theories abound but I've yet to hear the "Why they are doing it" portion.
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  • Posted by chad 8 years, 4 months ago
    Contrails first appeared in 1943 when planes were built that were capable of flying high enough to create them. It is nothing more than exhaust combined with water vapor. Air drawn into an engine is compressed, heated then cooled as it leaves the engine. The exhaust particles provide a surface for the water that is in the air to condense onto creating a cloud. It is the same process that creates normal clouds in the sky, there must be water vapor, some kind of pollution in the air for the vapor to condense onto, the air cools and changes from high to low pressure and the moisture condenses out forming clouds.
    This conspiracy theory is without foundation in reality. Why would any who wanted to rule the world poison the world, they live here too. Spreading chemicals at that altitude and that thinly would have little if any effect on those below. You would have to do this for thousands of years. You could spread nerve gas at that altitude and it would be too dispersed to have any effect on the ground. We are wasting our time with this kind of theory.
    People are easier to control than needing to spread chemicals through the air. People like authority even when it tells them to do something they don't want to do. Religion and the state teaches that above all else you must obey (duty) an authority until the authority gives you permission to do otherwise. Unfortunately about 98% of the people go along with authority.
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  • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 8 years, 4 months ago
    If you're not pissed, you are not paying attention.

    Americans are not used to thinking our government does things without telling us or consulting us.
    I Never ever slept all cozy in bed thinking government was protecting me.
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