The Attack on Christians Continues (by Hiraghm)

Posted by ShrugInArgentina 10 years, 8 months ago to Culture
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Hiraghm recently submitted new a topic which is hidden due to to his low "member score". It will generate a lot more comments if it is visible to everyone, so I am re-posting it here.

This is Hirgham's comment:

"It's getting close to time to vote with our feet.
I'm tired of these intolerant JERKS using this as a forum to attack Christian beliefs, not simply as part of a logical argument, but as ad hominem assaults, with insults, condescension and misattribution.

Go ahead, drive us out. Make this an echo chamber. And when you have to deal with your Moslem or Communist overlords, I hope it's the latter, because I'd like to be there to hear you whine about being fellow atheists and therefore exempt from persecution.

Cause I ain't going to fight 'em for you. I'm going to point right at you and say, "There they are; be so kind as to eat me last so I can enjoy their education".
Read more at http://www.galtsgulchonline.com/posts/e9...

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  • Posted by $ rockymountainpirate 10 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I think you just like to ask questions and don't worry about any answers. The question I was referring to is the altruism one, but there are many. Your choice.
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  • Posted by Robbie53024 10 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Please point out who on this site has requested this of you. I admit, I cannot read everything on this site, so I might have missed it. If it has occurred, it is the exception, not the norm. On the flip side, we are perpetually belittled for our views.
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  • Posted by Robbie53024 10 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    No. He fabricated a "crisis" that he leveraged into a call for suspending what little was left of the Constitution and implemented perpetual martial law, appointing himself supreme dictator for life.
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  • Posted by richrobinson 10 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I thought you were going to say when they came for the Objectivists that instead of going quietly or expecting someone else to step up we kicked their ass.
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  • Posted by Technocracy 10 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The comment you started with was simply....

    Opinion piece from 2011.

    A declarative thread title which some people would consider combative (not me oddly enough, but I can see how it looks that way)

    But no exposition on what you were looking to discuss, the point you are trying to make or anything else.

    To me that is baiting, not debating.


    Which doesn't say "Christians need not come in" but what it does do is tell them to not expect to feel welcome.

    I agree with the wall of separation, the problem I see is that each side is trying to use the wall to crush the other. Which was never the intent.

    As I said earlier if you want to debate, that's fine. But debate requires that a question be asked or a position for debate be stated.
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  • Posted by $ rockymountainpirate 10 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Here is a reasoned, rational and logical question for you Robbie. You just stated you have your answers and are not seeking answers. Then why do you continue to ask the same question?
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  • Posted by Robbie53024 10 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    You think I play a victim? Clearly you haven't been keeping track. I merely answered SinA's query - to whit: "would like to know how the absence of Christians in the Gulch will result in the rise of ..."

    And someone with a more sensitive disposition might call the GHB exclamation an intentional slight/provocation. Not me, I can take a joke.
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  • Posted by Solver 10 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I am continuously told to believe, accept, have faith in, sacrifice to, read the holy words, repent , and serve this religion or that. They at times can be very insistent. I'm guessing that you are not an atheist in a world of religious people.
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  • Posted by khalling 10 years, 8 months ago
    seriously, I could be having this conversation with Maph.
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  • Posted by Robbie53024 10 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Sorry, Shrug, but that's tame compared to what those of us expressing a position of faith have thrown at us. I know of some on here who refuse to acknowledge a belief in faith, or at least not very vocally, because of the abuse. Is that what you believe in? People who share 90% of the same sentiment, but are afraid of expressing that last 10%? Is that freedom?

    You'll never intimidate me, my faith is far too solid to be shaken by most of the arguments presented by those here.

    I do welcome the challenges, though, as it aids me in understanding my own rationale and reasoning and deepens my faith.

    There are some who keep insisting that I need to study Objectivism further. Yet they cannot provide me answers to rather straightforward queries that show that my concerns would be alleviated by further study.

    I have my answers. I'm not seeking answers. I do look to understand things that interest me, but only insofar as they actually advance some knowledge. Poor definitional presentation of words that misconstrue concepts that people say presents some new and profound understanding doesn't do it for me. Use the proper terminology so that we communicate effectively.

    I try to reason rationally, logically, and with facts. I often get insults and ad hominy's thrown back at me.
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  • Posted by $ Susanne 10 years, 8 months ago
    This is why they have this strange and alien notion of separation of church and state... Because the gamut runs from Sun Worshipers to Moonies and everything in between.

    Ain't my opinion gonna matter one (sorry, reading a colloquial email from one of my field people) whether someone believes or not gonna make a difference. You want to be an atheist? Go with Ungod. Wiccan? Burn yourself up. Christian? I can hang...

    Not my business what someone believes (or doesn't), just like it's not my business what someone does behind closed doors or who they crawl in bed with at night. And that's what's great about these United States of America... we all got the freedom to believe as we want, and do what we want, as long as it's not impinging on someone else. Hell, someone can be an antitheist Leninist-Marxist Pinko that sleeps with sheep... as long as he's not harming me, not only what should I care, but WHY should I care... unless I'm so much of a busybody have to have my nose in everyone else's business. And the dotgov has that one pretty well covered for us.
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  • Posted by khalling 10 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Tech, please explain how that article says "christians need not come in?" I have a fundamental disagreement on the founding of the nation. I submit evidence. Because I dare to hijack the basis of our Constitution? What part of natural rights, "a wall between teh state and religion" do you not want to accept? You are free to believe what you want and live in peace in my gulch. But Christianity can not claim the founding of our country. Rational, natural rights respecting individuals can. We should agree on that.
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  • Posted by khalling 10 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I will not debate your false choice. Use reasoned debate with me. this other stuff is unworthy of you
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  • Posted by Solver 10 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    That's old, but relevant. Nowadays it's more like:
    They came for the CEOs, but I wasn't a CEO, so I didn't object. They came for the financial institutions, but I wasn't part of a financial institution , so I didn't object. They came for the rich, but I wasn't rich, so I didn't object. ... They came for me, and there was nobody else left to object.
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  • Posted by khalling 10 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    actually, it is NOT appropriate on this site to say stuff like what he said. or what he said today about having a"fundamentalist father who beat you for playing with yourself" those statements and the ones above are not rational. They are the statements made by someone who needs a nap because they're whining too much.
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  • Posted by $ Susanne 10 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    They came for the looters, but I wasn't a looter, so I didn't object...

    Then they came for the Moochers, and I wasn't a moocher, so I didn't object...

    Then they came for the ultra liberals; as I'm not a libtard, I didn't object...

    And they came for the pull-mongers and favor-traders, and leftist anarchists, and since Im not any of those (thank God) I not only didn't object, but I cheered as well...

    Then they came for us rational thinking objectivists, and I said damn, did he get re-elected for a 3rd term?
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  • Posted by khalling 10 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    GODS' HAIRY BALLS!
    Individuals who appreciate Atlas Shrugged do NOT play the victim! up is down!
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  • Posted by Robbie53024 10 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Your comments are disingenuous. I've not seen many (if any) person of faith on here who insisted that you must believe. I'm always accosted by the non-believers here that I should leave, shut-up, am stupid'/ignorant, etc.
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